Mercedes, Chrysler brands to share new V6 family

Mercedes, Chrysler brands to share new V6 family
DaimlerChrysler is working on a new line of V6 engines for use in its Chrysler group and Mercedes-Benz vehicles. Known internally as Phoenix, the project will see engines built at three U.S. plants and one Germany facility, according to Automotive News.
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Agent63Agent63 - 7/24/2006 3:38:32 PM
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Wow does that mean finally the Chrysler/Dogdge brand has some better quality engines than the ones that break down after 3 years of driving?. That's awesome news for Chrysler. If it wasn't for it's sister company MB they wouldn't be where they are right now.


kart1kart1 - 7/24/2006 5:47:58 PM
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So DM is working on new V6 for MB and they will use the same ones in Chryslers. It sounds bad to say that MB will have to use the same engines that are in Chryslers. It sounds better to say that Chryslers will use MB engines. That is how the description should have read. But anyway like it matters what the description reads, what really matters is what the engine will be like.


SixxFiveSixxFive - 7/24/2006 5:55:04 PM
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What's the point of driving a Benz when a Sebring is going to have the same, engine, transmission and suspension?


Agent63Agent63 - 7/24/2006 6:29:47 PM
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Obvioiusly it won't be exactly the same. MB will tune them differently. It's just a platform they're using it from that is the same. Any extra parts will be different. It doesn't matter if a Sebring has the same engine. It's still not a Mercedes Benz.

For example: The Koenigsegg has a Ford engine in it's previous model. Does that make the car any less supercar? Same idea different sitation.

Chrysler is a luxury brand so it's not as bad as most people think. However, if you compared it to a Plymouth back in the day then yes it would be bad to say a MB A-Class uses the same engine as a Neon (EXAMPLE).

Another example would be Volkswagen using a Lamborgini engine. Wouldn't that make Lamborgini look bad? Once again same idea different scenario.


audirevolutionaudirevolution - 7/25/2006 1:23:56 AM
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SixxFive,

The Benz has a better name brand than Chrysler does. Plus it should be more luxurious.

However,IMO, Mercedes is becoming too much like Chrysler. Just take a look at the R class. Anyone else but me think that the R class looks like a pacifica?


chewychewy - 7/25/2006 3:55:11 AM
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Oh no, MBs will be rebadged Neons, oh the humanity. How will we live? JK.


courtstonecourtstone - 7/25/2006 9:46:16 AM
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So MB and Chrysler will start sharing engines...Is that good or bad? I guess it should be good for Chrysler, bad for MB. But its about time that MB started to improve on Chrysler instead of letting them eat scraps from the table.

I think that Chrysler had a good chance to improve its brand image and all just after the release of the 300c. It got rave attention, but they didnt capitalize on it. And now for the mid-sedan market they produce that hideous new Sebring...I was so let down.


RupertRupert - 7/25/2006 12:45:41 PM
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m-b chrysler engine sharing...i don't get it they do already. the 300c, based on e-class, the 3.5 v6 is the 350 in m-b, the 3.0 crd in jeep commander and grand cherokee and chrysler 300c (in europe) is an m-b engine.
hopefully the new voyager and town and country will be better, the platform is going to be shared with vw sharan though, which seems odd. why not use the r-class platform? or would it then compete to closley as an upmarket mpv?


BMW530iBMW530i - 7/25/2006 4:00:28 PM
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In Europe, I believe the diesel Chrysler 300 uses the CDI engine of the new E320 CDI. Someone correct me if I am wrong.


RupertRupert - 7/25/2006 4:05:10 PM
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bmw530i, you are very correct.



BMW530iBMW530i - 7/25/2006 7:47:56 PM
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Lucky guess on my part. :p


wwwwwwww - 7/26/2006 1:46:15 AM
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The new line of Engines is probably diff from the Nissan-Infinity VQ approach, which is essentially the same engine.

But they will probably have the same basic blueprint with different components in it. Like bigger bore/stroke, cylinder diameter with different cc etc. The MB engine will have more horsepower, while the chrysler ones will be more economic.

Good news for the company, Bad news for image but if the engines are superb in longevity, output and smoothness then it might be a positive end result. Esp when the engine is an award winning one.


EnnNorakEnnNorak - 7/28/2006 2:59:40 PM
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I can only hope that this will be a 60-degree V6 and not a 90-degree V6 as in current MB cars -- 90-degree V6 engines are inherently out of balance. Too bad very few manufacturers make in-line 6 engines these days.


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