Governor Preserves Red Light Camera Revenue Stream By Backing Non Standard Intersection Definitions

Governor Preserves Red Light Camera Revenue Stream By Backing  Non Standard Intersection Definitions
Governor Jan Brewer (R) on Wednesday vetoed a measure that would have brought Arizona's definition of an intersection into compliance with federal law. In her veto message, Brewer said it would be too dangerous to adopt the same legal standard implemented across forty-eight other states.

"The law enforcement community has been very clear that widening intersections will increase the possibility of collisions," Brewer wrote. "Unfortunately, these concerns for public safety were not addressed. Changes to this definition merit significant discussion and appropriate stakeholder input."

The federal Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD) requires intersections to begin at a stop line or crosswalk, but Arizona currently defines an intersection as beginning at an imaginary line drawn the end of one curb to the other. State Senator Frank Antenori (R-Vail) introduced the legislation that would have brought the state back into compliance after noticing the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) had chastised the Grand Canyon State's practice.



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monstermonster - 5/11/2012 9:02:01 AM
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Why do they vote these governors when they don't work for the interest of the people. This is just a shame how politics work.


Agent009Agent009 - 5/11/2012 9:42:44 AM
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It is all about money...


jcwconsultjcwconsult - 5/11/2012 2:35:27 PM
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I just sent the following email to the Governor.

Subject: Traffic Safety

Topic: Veto of HB2557

Dear Governor Brewer,

Your veto of this bill has one, and only one, true effect. It supports the predatory revenue stream for red light camera companies and their business-partner governments in Arizona to take money mostly from safe drivers in Arizona using an intersection definition that is illegal under FHWA rules.

Your veto keeps in place the defiance of Arizona to continue to violate federal law and refuse to comply with the MUTCD definitions of intersections used by 48 states, with the express result of continuing the high predatory revenue stream from Arizona residents and visitors going to ATS and Redflex at their offices in your state.

I am sure that Redflex, ATS, Mr. Heiler, and all the government treasurers where the predatory cameras are used will be very pleased with your veto that keeps the yellow intervals functionally too short by about 0.2 to 0.6 seconds to enhance the predatory revenue streams.

Your veto was anti-safety, grossly unfair to motorists, and needs to be reversed at the earliest opportunity.

James Walker
Ann Arbor, MI


HenryTheSpyHenryTheSpy - 5/11/2012 2:54:42 PM
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Red light cams are Snake Oil. They can't stop the real late runners, who cause the crashes. (If cameras worked, sellers wouldn't have the crash videos they show us.)
A real late runner (2+ secs. into the red) doesn't do it on purpose. He doesn't know (a visitor) or doesn't remember (a distracted or impaired "local") that there's a camera up ahead, so the presence of a camera won't stop him. To cut these real late runs, improve the visual cues that say, "signal ahead." Florida's DOT found that better pavement markings (paint!) cut running by up to 74%. Make the signal lights bigger, add backboards, and put the poles on the NEAR side of the corner. Put brighter bulbs in the street lights at intersections. Put up lighted name signs for the cross streets.
Cameras are not "neutral" - they come with many side effects: They (indirectly) block emergency vehicles - cars stopped at a camera hesitate to get out of the way! Other side effects: Rearenders, local $$$ sent to Oz or NYC (Goldman-Sachs owns 1/3 of ATS), where it won't come back, and tourists and shoppers driven away.
Want safety, no side effects?
Install the visual cues.
To cut car/pedestrian accidents, train your kids (and yourself) not to step out just 'cuz the walk sign came on.
To cut nuisance running (a fraction of a second late), lengthen the yellows. It's cheap to do so can be done all over town.
Who needs cameras?
Who needs their side effects?
Who needs gullible politicians who fall for Snake Oil? What will they fall for next?



randy3022randy3022 - 5/11/2012 4:35:25 PM
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We all hate TRAFFIC cameras, but this article is incorrect when it states:

"The only difference the bill would have made was reducing the number of red light camera citations."

That is NOT true. There is at least one other effect this bill would have, and that is to outlaw U-Turns at intersections during a red light.

Thank you, Gov. Brewer, for banning the bill and protecting this freedom.

We here in Arizona enjoy this freedom, and do not wish to surrender it.

Resident, Phoenix


awegweiserawegweiser - 5/12/2012 5:04:33 PM
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Resident Phoenix:
One more reason for us to avoid AZ. Your idiot Governor has again restricted freedom with this absurd veto.
More money for the State and the pimps that make and sell these these that have repeated been proved mostly useless. You have been repeatedly been surrendering freedom or haven't you been paying attention?
Brewer seems to have a bit of an interest conflict. Why not speak about that?


awegweiserawegweiser - 5/12/2012 5:04:33 PM
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Resident Phoenix:
One more reason for us to avoid AZ. Your idiot Governor has again restricted freedom with this absurd veto.
More money for the State and the pimps that make and sell these these that have repeated been proved mostly useless. You have been repeatedly been surrendering freedom or haven't you been paying attention?
Brewer seems to have a bit of an interest conflict. Why not speak about that?


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