Seven speed DSG transmission on tap for all Porsche's?

Seven speed DSG transmission on tap for all Porsche's?
Porsche had hoped to complete work on its sequential manual gearbox in time for this summer’s introduction of the 997-based 911 Turbo, but that car initially arrives with a Tiptronic automatic or a six-speed manual.
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supermotosupermoto - 7/25/2006 1:08:24 PM
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It's about time Porsche introduced a DSG gearbox! They're, what, 5 years behind BMW here?


validus00validus00 - 7/25/2006 2:13:21 PM
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You've got it the other way around buddy. BMW is years behind Porsche in DSG technology. You see, the rumor is that BMW is currently working with Getrag trying to develop a DSG transmission. SMG technology is old news and available in many variations on the street, whereas DSG is new and remarkable. I believe DSG offers the same racing performance as BMW/Getrag's SMG II, while shifting a lot smoother. It's basically a superfast tiptronic automatic system. I'm not sure about how reliable DSG is compared to SMG. The problem is just that Porsche's DSG, currently available in many Audi and VW lineups, isn't available in their own vehicles yet. I just don't understand why. It is the weight or size of the current variant? Or is it a reliability issue associated with higher horsepower/torque?


AlexTxAlexTx - 7/25/2006 3:51:00 PM
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Just think of the new 911 Turbo with DSG!!!
OH MY GOD!!


chewychewy - 7/25/2006 4:34:56 PM
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supermoto

VW's and Audis DSG is FAR superior to SMG.


quizzquizz - 7/25/2006 7:08:43 PM
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The reason DSG is not availabe on Porsche's yet is the durability of DSG when applied to a 350+HP motor. DSG is fine for 250HP and below but when you're talking 350HP and more in the Turbo, DSG hasn't proven to be workable, yet.

Porsche wants DSG badly and has been working hard over the last 5 years with Audi to make DSG work with their engines.

It's just a matter of time.


IamEvilHomerIamEvilHomer - 7/26/2006 1:22:52 AM
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guizz- the DSG is in the 1001 Bugatti.

The DSG that Audi came out with in the TT is designed for longatutnal engines and so that is why you are seeing it in several VW's

Audi and porsche should both come out with the 7 speed in the 2008 year with the Boxter/ cayman world and the New A4 or A5

Give me DSG and a S5 anyday :)


ElSparquitoElSparquito - 7/26/2006 7:27:54 AM
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Validus00

Wait - the DSG was Porsche's technology not VAG's? Not that it matters now cuz Porsche owns the majority stake anyway. I thought VAG developed the DSG (S-Tronic).


NeverfollowNeverfollow - 7/26/2006 12:55:46 PM
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Hold your missguided horses here boys and girls!

First of all, DSG does not belong to Audi, VW, Porsche, MB, BMW or any other car manufacturer. It belongs to Borg Warner! Every heard of them? They sell this sort of technology to the car industry and its up to each manufacturer to incorporate it into their platforms. Sometimes, a new techy tranny like this one requires a big change in the architecture of a vehicle. Since it uses two large clutches instead of just one, it takes up more space. Now lets say your a German car manufacturer who would love to have this technology in your line of cars, but you just redesigned most of your product line recently and can't start incorporating it until the next series of redesigns. Some of them are 8 year platforms. Get the idea?

You can read about DSG here:

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2005/04/19/042807.html




ElSparquitoElSparquito - 7/26/2006 1:20:17 PM
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Technically, yes. You are right. Borg Warner developed the technology with/for VAG.


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