Toyota wants diesel engines in the US! Do you?

Toyota wants diesel engines in the US! Do you?
Toyota will soon offer turbocharging and diesel engines in the U.S. These are just a few of the changes that its engine lineup will experience. Ford and Hyundai are proceeding with plans to make use of turbocharging and direction-injection
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vdivvdiv - 8/2/2012 4:08:32 PM
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For the trucks/SUVs, absolutely!


AirlinerAirliner - 8/2/2012 6:10:06 PM
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Why strop at truck & SUVs? I say bring it the entire line... If so, I would get a commuter Diesel 3dr Yaris with manual transmission.


EyecarehawaiiEyecarehawaii - 8/3/2012 8:35:48 PM
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Yes - for all vehicles. Choice is a good thing.


JustaCarJustaCar - 8/2/2012 5:41:42 PM
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Seeing the success VW is having with their TDi vehicles, I can see why Toyota would want a piece of the diesel action. Diesel engines have great economy without sacrificing performance and without the complexity of hybrids.


quizzquizz - 8/3/2012 1:10:56 AM
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Don't be ridiculous, the reason diesel didn't catch on in the U.S. is because:
1. Diesel had a terrible reputation when American manufacturers completely screwed it up and sold some of the worst diesel engines ever in the late 70's and early 80's - it was so bad that the taste never left the consumer's mouth.
2. Diesel cars are more expensive than regular, plus diesel fuel is more expensive as well, so unless gas prices are significantly higher (as they are in Europe), it doesn't make economic sense to buy diesel.
3. European auto recognizes these issues and do not market diesels here for that reason.

Also, we're talking diesel, and Toyota consumer diesel is no match for BMW/MB diesels, as a matter of fact, Toyota acknowledges they are not as advanced in diesel technology and have been working with European partners to get diesel right. No doubt Toyota hybrids are awesome,


atc98092atc98092 - 8/3/2012 8:48:45 AM
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quizz: I agree with your first point, but not the 2nd. Mercedes sells their diesels for roughly the same price as gas models. True, the VW brands are higher, but people look at the lowest cost gas model vs the lowest cost TDI. They don't take into account the higher content levels VW/Audi include. Of course, that's how they make more money on each sale.

Also, diesel prices in the US vary wildly by region. Here in Seattle over the past two months D2 went from 30 cents higher than premium gas, to equal to regular, and now is back up slightly higher than premium again. However, if you calculate cost per mile, not per gallon, D2 still comes out ahead.

Your 3rd comment is puzzling, as the Euro brands (VW, Audi, MB and BMW) are the only diesels available in the US right now (in passenger cars/SUVs).


WillisWillis - 8/3/2012 7:54:44 AM
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So Toyota is sourcing BMW diesels for their European products, but for the US they want to "develop their own diesels"? I'm confused.


BabyBaby - 8/6/2012 12:20:44 AM
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No. My bet is they take from that very blueprint and us it in the USA.


BabyBaby - 8/6/2012 12:25:29 AM
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The BMW Toyota merger will be awesome. Soon you will see high performance hybrid Diesels with outstanding fuel economy...


atc98092atc98092 - 8/3/2012 8:41:31 AM
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While this isn't a brand I shop, I welcome more diesels. Competition will just make them all better. Nothing like having more choices in the market!


BillBill - 8/3/2012 3:29:25 PM
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A modern diesel engine is fairly quiet, especially when properly warmed up.

Cold-starting issues? I have friends in Scandinavia living in permafrost who have no issues whatsoever starting their diesel-powered cars. The days when diesels were difficult to start are long gone.

So the BMW 335d lags a bit compared to the 335i when one stomps the pedal. Big deal. Someone interested in a 335d values the overall blend between peformance and fuel economy. That small initial throttle lag is irrelevant when ones examines the big picture.


mmartinmmartin - 1/8/2013 2:36:10 PM
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Hi all,
I have Toyota Avensis 2,2 L, DIESEL 150 HP and with normal driving my costs are 5,5 L/100 km, which is about 42,5 MPG.
Is it manual transmision.
Avensis = Avalon in USA

I come back from FL/USA 2 weeks ago and when was there I was driving VW Bora TDI (I think 1,9 or 2,0 L) and I know that cost for diesel is a bit more than regular, but comsumption of "regular" cars, automatic transmision 2,0 and higher is from +50% and more, for cars over 2,5 L there is a double consumption.
You dont need to be A student to figure out what is better.

true ist that if you are looking out for 2,5 Litter and more engine even diesel and automatic, consumtion will be higher, but never like in regular gas motor.



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