2014 BMW M3 Kicks The V8 To the Curb - Replaced By A 450HP Twin Turbo Inline 6

How much torks is the question now.

Should be around 400lb-ft.

this is news?

If it is a turbo 6 then the torque rating will probably similar or even more then the HP rating.

the power in the current m3 wasnt the issue, it was the weight.. i really hope the coupe drops like 2-3 hundred lbs

Really? The M3 weighs less than every competitor vehicle, that's one of the primary reasons it's won every comparison test it's been in against them. In the case of the CTS-V and RS5 it weighs 400-600lbs less. For what it's worth the next M3 supposedly will weigh at least a couple hundred pounds less, but is it possible you're just regurgitating what you've read about the M5 and M6 and applying it to the M3 to sound more knowledgeable?

Just because something weighs less than the competition doesn't mean its not overweight... Comparing 5 Sumos to one another does not make the least fat one skinny, it just makes it skinner than the others, but it doesnt negate the fact that its still fat. Just like the M3, just because its lighter than the competition does not make it light. It can still shed a lot of kgs and become a better car than it currently is.

true, but you could say that about almost any car. I have never seen any review complain about the weight of the M3 unless they were comparing it to a (much more expensive) Porsche 911. It's currently the lightest in the segment it competes in and the reviews have lauded it for it. And it is getting lighter in the next generation.

As a sworn enemy of N/A V8's, I like this news!

I predict it will make the exact same HP and Tq at 5252 RPM.

I will most likely have more torque than the V8 had, because the V8 was a high strung, high revving engine, where as turbos usually make as high or higher torque numbers than hp. My guess is torque will be at or close to 400lb/ft and at a much lower rpm than the outgoing V8.

I agree with early poster. The M3 needs to lean out. Its the essence of what used to be great about M cars.

BMW AG makes the 3 bigger and bigger, and it costs mucho $$$ to make cars lighter, so the 3 has gotten fatter and fatter along with BMW's profits.

I suspect its ONLY b/c of legal regulations that must be complied with that BMW will be lightening cars (to improve gas mileage). Otherwise they'd keep adding power to offset weight (ba hum bug to that).

As a BMW fan, loyalist and repeat owner (cars and bikes), it probably won't be long until the only BMW employees who remember what made the company great work at the M division - which has little/no input on the design of new models.... sad times at BMW for traditional enthusiasts.


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