EPA Rejects Request Suspend Corn-Based Ethanol Use In Fuels

EPA Rejects Request Suspend Corn-Based Ethanol Use In Fuels
The Environmental Protection Agency on Friday rejected a request from eight governors and nearly 200 members of Congress to waive requirements for the use of corn-based ethanol in the nation's 240 million vehicles in the wake of this summer's severe drought.

The EPA said it has not found evidence to support a finding of severe "economic harm" that would warrant granting a waiver of the Renewable Fuels Standard.

"We recognize that this year's drought has created hardship in some sectors of the economy, particularly for livestock producers," said Gina McCarthy, assistant administrator for EPA's Office of Air and Radiation. "But our extensive analysis makes clear that congressional requirements for a waiver have not been met and that waiving the RFS will have little, if any, impact."



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HughJassHughJass - 11/16/2012 12:17:55 PM
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Has anyone even looked at E85 mpg ratings on GM cars? They're about half of a normal car's.

We should be eating corn, not creating a poor fuel replacement with it especially since most companies are moving to electric power in one way, shape or form.

Sounds like another move by Jesus to help GM out since they're the biggest adopters of E85.


bjones682001bjones682001 - 11/16/2012 2:04:25 PM
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Your comment shows you, like most, have little knowledge of agriculture or ethanols effect.

This waiver was requested by livestock companies that feed corn....which is where most corn goes, NOT into the food you eat as is so commonly misunderstood. The waiver was denied after it was found ethanol increases the price of corn by around 1%, therefor the waiver would make virtually no change in the price of corn to relieve those feeding it to animals.

This waiver had nothing to do with cars, but mainly cattle. This country has an abundance of corn to use to feed people, even after the worst drought in decades. Saying this was done to help GM is so ridiculous...this has to do with animal feed.

When you find an immediate, better way to produce alternative fuels starting today than corn we'll go to that. For now we are using the best resource we have to help lower pump prices - corn. Probably in the near future that will change as alternative sources become available.


HughJassHughJass - 11/16/2012 4:21:34 PM
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You do know corn goes into almost everything we eat right?


bjones682001bjones682001 - 11/16/2012 9:51:31 PM
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You are aware that farmers have increased the amount of corn grown in order to provide enough corn to meet all needs right? If ethanol ended, less corn would be planted and other more profitable crops would be grown - corn prices would remain basically the same. It's simply supply and demand.

I live in Iowa...on a farm. Most people are so far removed from agriculture they simply believe this crazy idea ethanol drives up the price of corn substantially. As this report shows....like a zillion others...1% I don't think that's a terrible price to pay for significantly less oil needed from countries that hate us.

I'm sure you have expertise in an area I am clueless on....take my word, there are so many lies told on ethanol it's just amazing. Lies told by oil companies to drive UP the price of your gas. You wanted cheap gas, right? Ethanol contributes to that. I guess the only way for many to see that is to close down the industry. Of course with no government subsidies any longer, it just shows just how important ethanol is to our country right now.



85bmw745i85bmw745i - 11/16/2012 7:47:48 PM
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I wish they would completely remove ethanol from pump gas. I filled my LR3 with ethanol free gas and went from 13.9 mpg city to 15.2 mpg city. Bad enough gas is high, and only 90% of that gallon is gas. So you pay high prices for gasoline that makes your vehicle get worse fuel economy. And there is only one place where I live that has ethanol free gasoline.



HughJassHughJass - 11/17/2012 6:49:32 PM
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1% more is a cheap price until you realize you only get half the mileage. Don't they have schools out in Iowa?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-21/use-of-corn-for-fuel-in-u-s-is-increasing-prices-globally-fao-chief-says.html

Also, if Richard Branson has given up on biofuel, then its not viable. Unlike President Jesus, Sir Richard Branson has actually worked in his life time. No single-mom checks ever hit the Branson household.


bjones682001bjones682001 - 11/18/2012 2:28:32 AM
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The cost of corn is increased 1%......what does that have to do with "half the mileage"?!? That's only an E85 fyi....10 or 15% blends have no reduction in mileage. Yes we have schools in Iowa...that's why we grown enough corn for the world and biofuels. We keep the cost low for ALL uses of corn....that's the point!


85bmw745i85bmw745i - 11/18/2012 3:03:49 AM
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10% reduces mileage. I filled up my LR3 with ethanol free fuel on two separate occasions and both times went from 13.9 mpg to 15.2-15.4 mpg city. If they move to 15% good luck if you own any lawn equipment, boats, recreational vehicles etc. because it will ruin them, not to mention your gas mileage will get worse. more ethanol means more water in your fuel tank, and a higher concentration will ruin seals and rubber fuel lines of older cars even faster. I think they should remove ethanol completely and only ave ethanol free fuel and e85.


HughJassHughJass - 11/19/2012 9:07:21 AM
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Jesus' love child GM brands everything E85 in their crappy lineup, so you know they're going all in with this retarded technology.

Everybody gets more mileage by not using corn while GM decides to go the "less with more" route awaiting another bailout.

Speaking of handouts, corn farmers receive lots to help keep the price of corn artificially low. I'll give kudos to corn farmers indicating they don't need them, but stupid Americans will refuse to pay the actual price of corn (much the same they refuse to pay the actual price of gasoline) hence they continue to accept subsidies to keep prices low for overweight Americans.

How popular would you say this ethanol fuel will be (whether its E85 or something lower) if the true price of corn were factored in? We bitch enough when gas goes over $3.50, imagine if it hit $5/gallon and we ended up with less mileage.


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