LIVE! BMW Launches M6 Gran Coupe "Build YOUR Own" — How Would YOU Spec YOURS?

I think that's in the exclusive package, c's are the standard no costs option.


Love the wheels , best looking current M car.

A base MSRP of $113K?? Looks like BMW missed big on the pricing of the M6 Gran Coupe just like they missed big on the pricing of the entire 6-series Gran Coupe line.

The CLS63 AMG carries an MSRP of $95K and the Audi RS7's MSRP will likely fall in the $95-100K range as well.

And a Panamera Turbo starts at $138k and a Turbo S at $175K. So what? Cars don't all cost the same, get over it. If you can't afford it or don't see the value (or have a crippling brand bias), then get the less expensive one. You have choices.

German ... The M6 gran coupe is not targeting the RS7 or the CLS as they are both considerable smaller in vehicle size. The main competition is the Panamera Turbo or turbo s.

BMW4me4ever, targeting the Porsche Panamera Turbo is quite unfortunate for BMW. The "true" competition for BMW's M6 Gran Coupe is the Audi RS7 and Mercedes-Benz CLS63 AMG.

Just because BMW intended to target the more expensive Panamera Turbo does not mean that car magazines will actually compare the M6 Gran Coupe to the Panamera Turbo.

BMW will probably lose the comparison tests against the Audi RS7 and Mercedes-Benz CLS63 AMG and a big factor in the result will be pricing.

how is that unfortunate. The RS7 is smaller as is the CLS63. I have driven the S7 and the Cl63 and although nice cars, the 650xi gran coupe feels more solid. The Masserati and the Porsche is the target for BMW.

yes, it's expensive. but it's very smart pricing. it's a gorgeous, performance sedan and will be cross shopped with cars that cost much more...panamera GTS, panamera turbo, S63 AMG, etc. every single one made will be sold with ease.

The first option I want for the M6 Gran Coupe is all-wheel drive to better use all that torque/horsepower at launch and also drive better on wet/snow.

AWD?

AWD?

Hmmmm, no option for all-wheel drive. No point continuing this build and spending my Powerball winnings on the M5 Gran Coupe, then.

BMW M5 (the current F10) was placed only 67 on Autocar's Wet Handling Track (Great Britain), see link. It's likely the new M6 will be about as bad given that all three of BMW's M cars since 2006 have been among the worst performers on the wet track. It seems that BMW's rear-wheel-drive M cars have not been able to manage all that torque and power in wet and snow conditions. I shudder to think how this M6 will perform in heavy rain, or worse, snow... against Audi TT, Audi A5 and many other cars. Driving an M6 is an accident waiting to happen in wet and snow.
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/autocar_wet_handling_track.html

When the RS7 comes out, the M6 Gran Coupe will be compared against it. After all, the BMW 650i Gran Coupe was compared against the Audi S7 and Mercedes-Benz CLS550 in comparison tests. I know of no test that directly compared the BMW with the Porsche.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/the-results-8
http://tinyurl.com/crj2zy8
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so you are planning only to drive a car when it is either raining or snowing? Psst. Snow tires. I know it is a new concept to you, since you seem to like to walk around in the rain and snow all day.

Oh and by the way, I would love to see you drive the RS7 or S7 with the stock tires in the snow on a racetrack.

M6 is one of the best looking cars on the road IMO. Saw a black coupe a month ago and it was stunning.

Love the carbon fiber roof on a sedan, definitely sets it apart from the crowd.

BMW4me4ever: Too bad the M6 owner will have to think twice about taking out his rear-wheel M6 in rain or snow. On the other hand, the Audi RS7, Porsche Panamera Turbo and Mercedes CLS63 AMG S owners can drive their all-wheel drive cars in all conditions.

I've owned several Audis over the past 12 years: an S6 now (similar to an S7), and before that an S5 and A6 2.7T. Living in Toronto, I get some rain and snow; and I sometimes drive a few hundred miles in winter where occasionally it’s useful to take the sporty car. For example, I’ve driven my S5 between Montreal and Toronto (over 350 miles) during a heavy snowfall, at times almost a blizzard. I’ve been buying snow tires since the 1990s. Every snow tire I’ve bought in the last 15 years were rated the best winter performance tires by several European car magazines, especially German and Swedish (I’ve never bought Audi stock winter tires) based on my research.

I was sold on my first Audi when the sales rep took me out in early winter of 2001 on a 2002 A6 2.7T with summer tires – even though there was some snow and slush still on the ground, it was obvious that this Audi could do things in these driving conditions that my rear-wheel drive 3 series was incapable.

The Truth About Cars summarizes it: “On my second day with the S5 the heavens opened and my rain gauge recorded 8 inches in 50 hours, this is where the Quattro system in the S5 went from fun to amazing. There is of course a reason I’m partial to AWD; no matter how many clinics I attend I’m still a moron with RWD in an oh-shit-I-made-my-ass–spin-out-of-control kind of setting. AWD? It’s a cinch. Does that make the S5 a car that you can easily overdrive? Maybe, but that’s between you and your insurance carrier. Of course not all is rosy in Quattro-land, aside from binding in certain tight parking lot maneuvers, the AWD system makes the steering feel heavy and isolated at times. Personally, I think the increased traction is a worthwhile tradeoff but purists are bound to disagree... The S5 won’t ever feel like a 3 series, but when you stab the gas it does allow enough tail wagging fun to satisfy most drivers while maintaining epic grip and something of a safety factor. It’s this ratio of grip-to-effort that makes the S5 so rewarding behind the wheel. The M3 may have superior power, but for those of us that aren’t professional drivers, 400+HP and RWD can leave you with this sneaking suspicion that your car is trying to kill you. ”

If you want tighter cornering just get the sport rear differential, set the Drive Select to ‘individual’ mode and use the MMI to set the rear differential to ‘dynamic’.

No doubt the S7 or RS7, even with stock tires, will blow away an M6 and M5 with stock tires on a wet racetrack, and even more on a racetrack with snow. Virginia International Raceway was the only dry track lapped by all three latest cars: Audi S7 (3:09.80), BMW M6-F12/F13 (3:04.70) and BMW M5 – F10 (3:05.20). After over three minute

No doubt the S7 or RS7, even with stock tires, will blow away an M6 and M5 with stock tires on a wet racetrack, and even more on a racetrack with snow. Virginia International Raceway was the only dry track lapped by all three latest cars: Audi S7 (3:09.80), BMW M6-F12/F13 (3:04.70) and BMW M5 – F10 (3:05.20). After over three minutes of driving, the 420 HP S7 was only about 5 seconds behind the 560 HP M5 and M6 driving at their limits on a dry track. The Audi’s all-wheel drive is able to put more of its 420 HP horsepower on the road than the rear-wheel drive M6 and M5 are able to do with its 560 HP. If the S7 could do this on a dry racetrack, imagine what the S7 or RS7 will do on a wet or snow track.
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/virginia_international_raceway.html

No wonder Mercedes saw the light of AWD for its high-performance cars: it upgraded the rear-wheel drive E63 AMG to the all-wheel drive E63 AMG 4Matic S and the CLS63 AMG to CLS63 AMG S. Too bad BMW is stuck in old thinking, and is late to the party.

No doubt the S7 or RS7, even with stock tires, will blow away an M6 and M5 with stock tires on a wet racetrack, and even more on a racetrack with snow. Virginia International Raceway was the only dry track lapped by all three latest cars: Audi S7 (3:09.80), BMW M6-F12/F13 (3:04.70) and BMW M5 – F10 (3:05.20). After over three minute"

only 5 seconds on a racetrack is huge. When the average speed is about 120 mph a 5 second differential is the difference for one car to be on the 2nd or 3rd turn while the other car is just crossing the finish line. So what you are saying is the AWD only benefits you in snow or rain? Personally if I am racing and I know that the track will be wet, then I would put the appropriate tires on. And still the S7 would not be able to keep up. I am just saying having actually raced in wet weather.

S5? The S5 has lost every comparison test to M3 and it hasnt even been close. How did that come up in a conversation about the M6? The RS5 has lost every comparison since we are on it.

" I was sold on my first Audi when the sales rep took me out in early winter of 2001 on a 2002 A6 2.7T with summer tires – even though there was some snow and slush still on the ground, it was obvious that this Audi could do things in these driving conditions that my rear-wheel drive 3 series was incapable."

Luckily BMW had an AWD out then, yet you didn't buy it. I live in a snow belt state and my last AWD car was in 2006. Since then I have had 4 BMW's all RWD yet have not had any issues driving my cars in the snow. If I had a M6 Gran Coupe, I most likely would have a SUV and wouldnt be driving it in the snow. I am sure the S7 owner changes his tires to winter tires as the sport performance tires are horrible in the snow.

The 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 (2:52.38) out sprinted by 12 seconds the M6 (3:04.70) and by 13 seconds M5 (3:05.20). If the 5 second gap between the S5 and M6/M5 on a racetrack is huge, then how much 'huger' is the M6/M5 12 and 13 second gap with the Chevy Camaro? When the new 560 HP RS7 races this track, it will almost certainly outrun the M5 and M6 by several seconds, based on the 420 HP S7's results.
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/virginia_international_raceway.html

Based on the dry track results, the S5 will surely blow away the M5 on a wet track. On a wet racetrack, the latest M5 (F10) was one of the slowest cars on the list. The M5 was over 11 seconds slower than the 2008 Audi RS6 Avant and 9 seconds slower 2006 Audi TT 2.0 TFSI after just one minute of driving. These cars used the appropriate tires for wet track and were driven by pro drivers. We're not talking about amateur drivers who have "actually raced in wet weather". All things being equal, the AWD car wins easily in wet and snow.
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/autocar_wet_handling_track.html



I did not say that "AWD only benefits you in snow or rain". AWD also benefits on dry conditions. The reason why the 420 HP S7 is as fast as the 560 HP M5 in 0-60 mph in several independent acceleration tests in dry conditions is simple: the AWD Audi S7 is able to use more of its horsepower and torque on the road through its four tires than the RWD BMW M5 can do through two tires.

Automobile Magazine: "The 2014 Audi RS7 will be measured against the Mercedes-Benz CLS63 AMG and the forthcoming BMW M6 Gran Coupe. The competition has motorsport-bred engines, but the style message is garbled, as the Mercedes looks glum beneath its frosting of overwrought flourishes, while the BMW threatens to sink through the floor with its sheer heaviness. And when the journey is long, the weather is bad, and the pavement is slick, we think there will be plenty of people willing to pay an estimated $110,000 (without all the cool options) for the privilege of taking the test in an RS7 Sportback. After all, real roads go across the country, not just around the back of the grandstands at a racetrack."
http://tinyurl.com/clrf4v9

It is obvious to everyone else that the S5 example was simply to quote a car reviewer's experience and views on all wheel drive. Maybe this Top Gear video of the S4 and M3 will give you a better perspective: When both cars were driven by the same driver (The Stig), the S4 was one second faster than the M3 on a dry track.
http://tinyurl.com/c52kgdj

In 2001, buying the Audi 2.7T was an intelligent choice: Audi's Quattro system was superior to BMW's AWD, the twin-turbo 2.7T engine from the S4 was great, Audi's interiors were far better than BMW, and the coupe-like styling was unique and praised. Of course the BMW had certain driving attributes that the Audi did not have, but in most cases it was marginal and so the overall trade-off was positive.

Of course Audi owners with su

In the C&D lighting lap the 300hp BMW 335i was only 3.4 seconds slower than the 420hp s6... With a 120hp difference. The 420hp S6 was 5 seconds slower than the M5 with a 140hp difference. Also VIR is a very twisty track wich is why the less powerful Porsche boxster beat all of these cars and rs5. On a fast track like the ring the M5 is faster than all these cars. Anyway the moral of the story is Audi a7/a6 chssis's are poorly balanced on track, and an additional 140hp will not make up 5 seconds, as you can see by it having 120 hp advantage it was only 3.4 seconds faster than a regular 335, giving the S6 an additional 20hp would not have made it 1.5 sec faster.


Also that wet handling track times are garbage, the are set in different conditions at different times if the year...and actually years apart from each other. Like someone is going to believe a VW golf and ford focus are faster than a 911 turbo, Nissan gtr, mclaren mp4, and Bugatti very on. Lol what a joke.

You gotta stop drinking the Audi kool aid bud.