Tesla Pays Back Its DOE Loan — Is The Company NOW A Winner?

Tesla Pays Back Its DOE Loan — Is The Company NOW A Winner?
It appears to be Tesla's year.

Not only is it racking up VERY positive feedback on the new Model S, but it is also seemingly doing good business. While their creative accounting received some backlash, we do have to admit the cars are moving at a good pace.

And when you see one on the road, it's pretty cool. They do have presence and a unique facade. Though I wouldn't want to have to charge up for 30 or so minutes, I will say that avoiding paying at the pump is a pretty nifty thought.

That said, there's some more good news for Tesla. Remember those U.S. Department of Energy loans? Yeah, they just paid them all back.

It's unbelievable but true: the U.S. government didn't screw this one up and taxpayers made $12 million buckaroos on the deal. Funny thing is no one likes to report this about the funds repayed by the banks that were "bailed out," but that's another story for another site.

So, now what? Between this and the flurry of good news after a rocky start to 2013, it appears that Tesla could be onto something. Cars are popping up everywhere and the loans are paid in full.

Are they a WINNER in your book NOW?


Tesla Motors Inc. (TSLA), labeled a “loser” by Mitt Romney during the U.S. election, is giving President Barack Obama’s green-energy strategy its biggest win after almost two years of failures pounced upon by Republicans.

The maker of the electric Model S car as early as today will become the first recipient of a U.S. Energy Department vehicle loan to pay off its debt. The Palo Alto, California-based company will do so nine years ahead of schedule, with taxpayers making at least $12 million on the $465 million lent.


Tesla's press release follows:

Palo Alto, CA – May 22, 2013 — Tesla Motors announced that it has paid off the entire loan awarded to the company by the Department of Energy in 2010. In addition to payments made in 2012 and Q1 2013, today’s wire of almost half a billion dollars ($451.8M) repays the full loan facility with interest. Following this payment, Tesla will be the only American car company to have fully repaid the government.
 
For the first seven years since its founding in 2003, Tesla was funded entirely with private funds, led by Elon Musk.  Tesla brought its Roadster sports car to market with a 30% gross margin, designed electric powertrains for Daimler (Mercedes) and had done preliminary design of the Model S all before receiving a government loan.
 
In 2010, Tesla was awarded a milestone-based loan, requiring matching private capital obtained via public offering, by the DOE as part of the Advanced Technology Vehicle Manufacturing program.  This program was signed into law by President Bush in 2008 and then awarded under the Obama administration in the years that followed. This program is often confused with the financial bailouts provided to the then bankrupt GM and Chrysler, who were ineligible for the ATVM program, because a requirement of that program was good financial health.
 
The loan payment was made today using a portion of the approximately $1 billion in funds raised in last week’s concurrent offerings of common stock and convertible senior notes. Elon Musk, Tesla’s chief executive officer and cofounder, purchased $100 million of common equity, the least secure portion of the offering. “I would like to thank the Department of Energy and the members of Congress and their staffs that worked hard to create the ATVM program, and particularly the American taxpayer from whom these funds originate,” said Elon Musk. “I hope we did you proud.”


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MorePowerMorePower - 5/22/2013 11:00:35 PM
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It's more of a winner than Fisker.


cdokecdoke - 5/23/2013 5:49:48 AM
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Bob, the word "faggot" is unbecoming.

Anyway, I am glad they paid back their loan, but the statement that taxpayers made $12 million is an obfuscation if you could make the argument that it would not have taxed to begin with (admittedly shaky). The reason has to do with deadweight (social) losses from taxation, but the crux of the matter is that the multiplier for government spending is less than 1, and that for taxation is much greater than one. Latest Fed Reserve numbers have these at 0.7 and 3 respectively depending on location. Meaning if the government were to spend $1 billion GDP would rise by $700 million, while if government were to lower taxes by $1 billion, GDP would rise $3 billion. Point Calcs, but you get the idea.


skytopskytop - 5/23/2013 8:47:10 AM
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Did they pay back the debt with another loan as GM did?


Agent009Agent009 - 5/23/2013 10:07:12 AM
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sold stock and the investors funded the payback.


scenicbyway12scenicbyway12 - 5/23/2013 11:17:33 AM
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Waiting for Germanut and Satriani1 to tells us all how if Audi were taking loans they would have paid them back faster than in company in history. Audi still make more money the Tesla will ever make, all in lengthy paragraphs and goofy url’s.


Satriani1Satriani1 - 5/23/2013 1:06:03 PM
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scenicbyway12: You’re missing the big picture obviously because you are lost looking at little scenes and are ignorant of the facts: Audi has no need to take loans out of desperation, and thus no opportunity to pay loans back. Yet Audi already owns subsidiaries Lamborghini, Ducati, Italdesign Giugiaro, etc.

And Audi is part of a larger Volkswagen Group that also has no reason to take loans out of desperation as it offers banking services (i.e., they can give loans) and also owns Volkswagen, Bugatti, Porsche, Bentley, Seat, Skoda, Scania, Man SE and even 30% of Suzuki.

How funny is that? Volkswagen Group offers banking services. So your time-wasting post fails the fact, logic and sarcasm test :)

Is Tesla really a winner? Tesla was able to pay back the loan because of its inflating stock price gave it a bubble in the short term, not because it made huge profits. Tesla stock is currently trading around $90 -- three times what it was trading on average in 2010, 2011 and 2012. As late as March this year, Tesla stock was $34.
http://tinyurl.com/otfqvq9

The stock price rose partly due to opportunistic stock buyers taking advantage of positive publicity about Tesla in recent months -- some very deserved due to positive reviews/awards/tests, some due to the evangelical support of people who bought Tesla stock and/or who support electric vehicles.

At this stage Tsla is no different than thousands of other start-up companies that finally managed to produce a successful product are in post-IPO: will Elon Musk and the major shareholders sell off Tesla for billions to a larger auto company or investment group? Or will Tesla continue under its current management and ownership -- and either make the transformation from start up to growing company with larger production and multiple products... or stumble and fail from the growing pains. Very few companies truly make that transition, but only time with tell.




scenicbyway12scenicbyway12 - 5/23/2013 1:31:33 PM
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Thanks for proving my point.


Satriani1Satriani1 - 5/23/2013 4:08:27 PM
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You've proved my point that you waste time taking irrelevant sniped at other posters. We're still waiting for you to post something insightful and relevant to the blog article, like this...

“The (Tesla) stock is trading like it’s 1999 and we’re in the Internet bubble again. It has nothing to do with Tesla’s fundamentals. It has to do with pie-in-the-sky aspirations that don’t reflect the realities of the auto industry ,” said analyst Maryann Keller. Elon Musk’s fortune has soared 89 percent this year to $4.5 billion (probably over $5 billion today given the rise in Tesla stock proice in the past two weeks).
http://tinyurl.com/ctto5n5



scenicbyway12scenicbyway12 - 5/23/2013 4:40:20 PM
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What's Audi stock price (sarcasm)


scenicbyway12scenicbyway12 - 5/23/2013 4:53:39 PM
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Waste of time, please your post are an exercise in bombastic redundancy, shilling the Audi line again and again. It's obivous the work for Audi by posting items from the proprietary media website. I'm sorry Sarcasm elludes you.


Satriani1Satriani1 - 5/23/2013 5:25:45 PM
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My my, you sound agitated from posting your fluff. We're still waiting for you to post something relevant to the blog article... something insightful hopefully.


vdivvdiv - 5/23/2013 2:42:06 PM
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Audi and the rest of the Deutsch Autohersteller have a giant electric chip sitting on their shoulder and Tesla has managed to rub it in sufficiently to cause them to lose their cool: http://tinyurl.com/n6kkbzu and http://tinyurl.com/qb7rf73

Good!

That in itself may be Tesla's most significant accomplishment in the past year or two.

The Germans themselves are beginning to ask why their leading auto industry cannot/is not producing electric cars and how can a tiny Silicon Valley company run by computer nerds make a car that not only trashes the German equivalents in performance, but also in sales.

Wake up and smell the coffee, Mrs. Bueller! Your inertia, arrogance and stodginess are leading you down the primordial path. Listen to Carlos Ghosn, regardless of politics people expect EVs from the automakers.


Satriani1Satriani1 - 5/23/2013 5:21:56 PM
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Car and Driver Mag: Why Tesla's Elon Musk Needs a Muzzle
http://www.caranddriver.com/columns/aaron-robinson-why-the-great-elon-musk-needs-a-muzzle-column

You obviously need to watch more movies like Iron Man 3, where Tony Stark drives Audi's R8 electric car.
http://progress.audiusa.com/iframes/carousel/images/hero/ironman3.jpg

Or camp at tracks like Nurburgring, where Audi's R8 e-tron last year set a lap record for an electric car.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-57463934-48/audi-scores-fastest-electric-lap-on-the-nurburgring/

Or just buy an Audi A3 e-tron from an Audi dealer in Germany
http://microsites.audi.com/e-tron/?locale=de_DE#/intro

Expect Audi to launch more hybrid and electric cars in future.

Both BMW and Mercedes also have interesting electric car projects in development.

It's nonsense that "people expect EVs from their automakers". If you can do math, you should have known there is no rush to buy all-electric cars in the USA. Almost 4 million cars were sold in the first quarter in the USA -- but only about 0.001% were Tesla Model S. And sales of the Chevrolet Volt and Nissan Leaf were each less than Tesla.

So actually it's you who need to wake up and smell the coffee. Your facts are wrong.

It's ignorant nonsense to claim that the Tesla Model S "not only trashes the German equivalents in performance, but also in sales." The Audi A6/A7/S6/S7 is comparable to the three sub-models of the Tesla Model S line -- the comparable Audi model line beat the Tesla line in performance and first quarter sales. For example, here is the Car and Driver mag instrumented test: Audi S6 (420 HP) and Tesla Model S-85 Performance (416 HP)
- Zero to 60 mph: Audi 3.7 sec, Tesla 4.6 sec
- Standing ¼-mile: Audi 12.1 sec @ 115 mph, Tesla 13.3 sec @ 104 mph
- Top speed: Audi 155 mph, Tesla 134 mph
- Braking, 70–0 mph: Audi 157 ft, Tesla 160 ft

Based on C&D testing,
- Tesla claimed it's 0 to 60mph acceleration is 4.2 sec, yet under-delivers only 4.6 sec.
- Audi claims its 0 to 60mph acceleration is 4.5 sec, yet over delivers 3.7 sec.



vdivvdiv - 5/24/2013 1:51:37 PM
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There is nothing "realistic" about e-trons as all of them are concepts and trials and none of them are/have been available on the market for sale to everyday Joes and Janes. I see all-electric A3 e-trons drive around here all the time. All of them are trial cars driven by Audi employees and it hurts me that people cannot go and just get one. It is the same thing with BMW ActiveEs and Mini-Es beforehand. The Jetta Hybrid is an excellent car, but it lacks one crucial thing, a plug. The XL1 has a truly spectacular drive-train and construction, but it is really a proof of concept.

REAL engineers itch to push the envelope and explore new and better propulsion systems. It is not them holding Audi and BMW from releasing plugins, it is the bean-counters, the short-term gain instant gratification junkies, and the over-caffeinated and trigger-happy shareholders.

EVs are real, they are here now -- over a 100,000 of them in the US, they are a lot fun to drive, they are practical, and they are affordable. Car companies not realizing that are relegating themselves to the dustbins of history and irrelevance.


vdivvdiv - 5/28/2013 11:38:08 AM
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Yeah, I guess I do need to watch more movies in live in a fantasy-land:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/all-electric-audi-r8-e-tron-wont-go-sale


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