Why Are The "Leaders" Of The Premium Segment Allowing Tesla To Steal Their Market Share?

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One of the dangers in appealing to the EV hybrid or diesel market is targeting your approach.  What type of customer will actually buy your products in alternative forms?  Obviously Toyota has hit the nail on the head with the Prius, and Lexus sells quite a few ES and RX hybrids as well. However, both the Volt and Leaf have struggled to gain momentum and were forced to slash prices.

Contrary to popular opinion, reaction to luxury segment as far EV or hybrid sales goes, has been almost a guaranteed failure for most.  Here at AutoSpies we actually had a running joke if you wanted to guarantee failure, just make a hybrid luxury car over $50K.  The buyers simply don’t exist in the numbers that were originally hoped. You can actually argue these buyers got to where they were by doing the math, and they figured out a long time ago it wasn’t worth a hybrid or EV investment.  Going green without cost savings is a no go here.

Well that was true for quite a while, but last month’s sales figures of the over $50K market may tell a different story all together.

Chew on these facts and see if you agree:

Total Hybrid sales in July for vehicles starting at $50K+ (luxury not near luxury) was only 296 vehicles (pretty pitiful)

Total EV sales in July for vehicles starting at $50K+ (Tesla) was 1550 vehicles (really?)

Why is Telsa outselling the ENTIRE Hybrid segment over $50K? And why are they having this success?

YTD Hybrid/EV over $50K were only 2,271 units  While Tesla sold a whopping 12,200 vehicles. This is over a 5 to 1 ratio from an upstart over the established luxury market.  What the heck and how embarrassing!

Clearly those with the cash will part with it for a EV/Hybrid, but only Tesla seems to be making the RIGHT car in the segment because it is the top selling alternative propulsion vehicle over $50k on the planet.

Note the RX hybrid is starting at $46K and ES is $40K so neither are in the summary but CLEARLY Tesla has stumbled on a market that everyone else would swear didn’t exist.

Here may be a few reasons why:

1. The company has always been positioned like Apple and from Silicon Valley so the media bought into it in a different way.

2. Their founder is like more like Steve Jobs or Richard Branson and is definitely the most interesting guy in business today (Don't underestimate the power of leadership)

3. The car design stands out and is beautiful. So the guy who buys (who by the way is more into strippers and whiskey than the environment) has a unique conversation piece and EVERYONE knows its electric.

4. If you peel back to real purchase intent,  We believe people are buying for the tech like huge center stack screen/charge monitor via iPhone app more than save the planet intention

5. Lastly, people think its cool to go against the status quo auto companies and are saying with a Tesla purchase that they are not impressed with how long these companies have been dragging their feet and the lukewarm products that are coming out

Earlier today we reported that BMW didn’t think Telsa was a serious competitor to them, maybe they need to wake up and smell the roses because the Germans have a threat on the horizon whether they think so or not.



ScirosSciros - 8/20/2013 12:06:13 PM
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The Tesla Model S makes a bigger statement about how uncompromisingly badass you are than any other similarly priced luxury car. It's also a superior product in every single measurable way.

So... yeah. This isn't like the iPhone vs the current badass Android phones. This is like the iPhone vs old Blackberry.

Maybe other companies can wait for Tesla to break open the market and provide loads of infrastructure and then piggy back on some public goodwill. I don't know what they're planning. Maybe they see EVs as a fad and HFC as the way to go and are banking on that while letting Tesla have its decade of fame. But on the face of it, I have to agree, it's interesting how Tesla managed to really identify this market gap and beat everyone else to filling it, because it's not like that can happen overnight.

But then Elon Musk is an insane visionary if I've ever seen one. We need more people like him.


Agent009Agent009 - 8/20/2013 12:54:57 PM
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I easily see the Jobs comparison. Microsoft has tablets for over a decade. Jobs walks in and says you are doing it all wrong drops the iPad, and a whole new segment develops that outsells the entire PC market. Wasn't technically spectacular hardware wise but redefined the entire market in a few short years.


TauronB2GTauronB2G - 8/20/2013 1:55:38 PM
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Excessive hubris. See the story below about BMW not viewing Tesla as a competitor.
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Agent009Agent009 - 8/20/2013 2:11:03 PM
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BMW's mistake


ParadoXParadoX - 8/20/2013 2:16:02 PM
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Indeed. The Model S is a direct competitor in terms of price and performance.


Satriani1Satriani1 - 8/20/2013 2:57:02 PM
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009: "Earlier today we reported that BMW didn’t think Telsa was a serious competitor to them, maybe they need to wake up and smell the roses because the Germans have a threat on the horizon whether they think so or not."

And that's true as I posted here that even a recent German car mag chose the Tesla Model S Performance over the long wheelbase models of the new Mercedes S 500 and facelifted BMW 750Li.
http://autospies.com/news/BMW-Says-It-Doesn-t-View-Tesla-As-A-Competitor-77646/

Autozeitung surely has lapped the Tesla around its test track, though it hasn't posted the umbers yet. And Motor Trend has said it would be subjecting the Tesla to the track with Randy Pobst. The results should be interesting.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/oneyear/alternative/1310_2013_tesla_model_s_p85_arrival/


BMW4me4everBMW4me4ever - 8/21/2013 2:23:30 PM
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That is a weird test as the Tesla is not a direct comparison aside from price. Nowhere near the size nor luxury as the 7-series or the Mercedes S-class. It should have been compared to the Audi S6, BMW 550i or E550 which from a size perspective is more of a direct competitor, yet the tesla is about $30k more ...


Satriani1Satriani1 - 8/21/2013 6:01:18 PM
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That's true. It should have really been compared to the S7, 650i Gran Coupe and CLS 500 Sporting Brake or Coupe given the dimensions and hatchback of the Tesla Model S.

But I guess the writer wanted to make a big statement about the paradigm shift of the Tesla's engine vs the German flagships.


supermotosupermoto - 8/20/2013 3:17:37 PM
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In CA, you get to use the carpool lane. A huge benefit for commuters.

But saying that the Model S is a "superior product in every single measurable way" is absurd. I spec'd out a fully-loaded Model S on Tesla's website - $110k. Having sat in one, the interior looks like a $30k car. For the same price I could by a used Continental GT, Aston, etc.



Agent009Agent009 - 8/20/2013 3:39:02 PM
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and have those lovely repair bills to boot.


CarCrazedinCaliCarCrazedinCali - 8/20/2013 9:49:01 PM
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Agent009, what an absurd assertion that the Tesla won't break or have problems


nguyenvuminhnguyenvuminh - 8/20/2013 4:26:00 PM
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009 :-) Good one on the repair bills. I've had a chance to talk to couple of the Tesla owners here in San Diego and they've owned luxury cars before (or in addition to the Tesla). I think they're comfortable with the interior material/quality for the kind of money they've shelled out.


HughJassHughJass - 8/20/2013 4:35:06 PM
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I'm waiting for the KIA Model K to come out with 0%, 25 yr financing. Shouldn't take them long to replicate the Tesla body design, they've had 20 years to perfect the art of imitation.


thetruth01thetruth01 - 8/20/2013 5:01:45 PM
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Though I'm loathe to knock the Lexus high end hybrids or give credit to 009 articles, there are some valid points here. I think that Porsche may have it figured out with the Panamera plug in hybrid. If it wasn't so polarizing (ugly) a vehicle, this could be a worthy competitor to the Tesla. All the benefits of the Tesla with no range anxiety. But did I mention it's ugly? The Tesla is gorgeous. BMW and Lexus just followed Lexus on this one with their middling flagship hybrids. Porsche, like Tesla, chose a bigger risk, one that may pay off for them.

I think Lexus needs to go back to the drawing board. And Porsche has the right idea. Plug in the LS600hL, and I think they'll finally have a winner. Or at least a car worthy a $125,000 price tag. It'll still be no Tesla. But fortunately, it'll be no Panamera either.


Agent009Agent009 - 8/27/2013 12:00:03 PM
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You are the new president of my fan club. Your pin lapel and secret decoder ring are in the mail.


TheDepressingTruthTheDepressingTruth - 8/24/2013 1:23:31 AM
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Said it Before...I'll say it again....

What is REALLY interesting is how Musk has developed the "smoke and mirrors" that a car THIS expensive...and THIS low in Volume...matters AT ALL!


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