California Passes Six Laws To Encourage EV Adoption

California Passes Six Laws To Encourage EV Adoption
Governor Jerry Brown has signed six bills recently to encourage California drivers to buy electric vehicles. But does America’s largest market for hybrids and electric vehicles really need more buying incentives?

California is leading the way in electric car sales, with approximately 35% of all EVs in America being found in the Golden State, with a ton of incentives thrown at early adopters of electrified vehicles. For example, the “White Sticker” program that allows zero emission, hydrogen fuel cell, and compressed natural gas vehicles to use carpool lanes, regardless of the number of occupants. Given California’s rather epic traffic situation, this is a huge boon for those in a rush.

That program has now been extended until 2019. In addition to the White Sticker program, the “Green Sticker” program has also been extended until 2019. The Green Sticker program allows up to 40,000  low emission vehicles, like the Chevy Volt, to also use carpool lanes.


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jeffgalljeffgall - 10/17/2013 5:07:20 PM
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And how is California paying for this when they are broke?


LexSucksLexSucks - 10/17/2013 5:58:29 PM
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Weed Money


ParadoXParadoX - 10/17/2013 6:30:07 PM
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California has a budget surplus.


Terry989Terry989 - 10/17/2013 10:02:08 PM
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1) California is not paying for this, all the article says is that they get a temporary privilege to drive in the commuter lane.
2) California is a leader in alternative energies - Hydro, Solar, Wind and Geothermal. We leave the coal and oil burning to the conservatives.

I'm not sure why so much misplaced hate when it comes to keeping our environment clean.


MBCLS07MBCLS07 - 10/18/2013 5:42:42 AM
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Terry989, how is raising California's budget issues an expression of "so much misplaced hate"?


MBCLS07MBCLS07 - 10/18/2013 5:52:23 AM
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Btw, California does NOT have a budget surplus. Google "Jerry Brown house of cards" and you'll see the billions of unfunded pensions that aren't being accounted for in Brown's "balanced budget".


Terry989Terry989 - 10/18/2013 1:14:51 PM
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I would rather not have to pay for a clean environment, but the alternative is much worse. You obviously haven't spent much time in Beijing, Shenyang, Changsha, Taipei, Jakarta, or just about any other large city in Asia. I choose not to live in a cesspool of chemicals. Look how our past sins are working out for the north eastern / mid western states in the US. If you are unsure what I'm talking about, check any of the cancer maps/demographics that are readily available. I'm pretty sure the reason people are burying their loved ones early isn't due to an abundance of good weather.

Ideally these costs should be paid for by the polluting entities, but with a bottomless pit of lobby money, we all know what the likely of that happening is.


MBCLS07MBCLS07 - 10/18/2013 2:20:52 PM
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Terry, don't play that game with me. Save your red herrings and strawman arguments for someone else. You made a reckless accusation in calling another commenter full of "so much hate" for simply questioning the program given California's fiscal issues. Again, where did jeffgall express hatred?


skytopskytop - 10/17/2013 9:25:05 PM
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California liberals are so smart. They are promoting electric cars....that all run on electricity.....produced by burning coal or oil.


MorePowerMorePower - 10/17/2013 10:47:36 PM
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Actually, most of California's power comes from hydro or nuclear. There are very few coal burning power-plants in the state.


MBCLS07MBCLS07 - 10/18/2013 5:50:12 AM
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Actually, MorePower, are you aware that 40% of the electricity supplied to LA by the DWP comes from coal? Furthermore, the San Onofre nuclear power plant is offline and guess how that energy production is going to be replaced. That's right, largely with coal.


Terry989Terry989 - 10/18/2013 1:03:43 PM
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MBCLS07 - - - I'm not sure where your facts come from but according to this break out, only 1.7% of California in state power generation comes from coal. It may be a little out of date since it is from 2010, but logic would suggest that no one is headed towards more coal use.
http://energyalmanac.ca.gov/overview/energy_sources.html


MBCLS07MBCLS07 - 10/18/2013 2:17:26 PM
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Terry989, the key words there are "in state". What your source fails to mention is that a high percentage of California's electricity is imported from out of state, most of which is created by...take a wild guess...that's right, COAL. It's a sneaky little way that California's politicians and environmentalists can claim that California is all about clean energy, when in fact, the dirty little secret is that the only way they can make energy ends meet is by importing the "dirty" energy from elsewhere. It's dishonest and hypocritical.


Terry989Terry989 - 10/18/2013 3:12:09 PM
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MBCLS07 - - - Yes I specially said "in state" so as not to manipulate the statistics, and I sighted a source.

As you pointed out, overall coal generation is higher at 7.5%, a value honestly published by the state. 40% for LA is clearly a red herring
http://energyalmanac.ca.gov/electricity/total_system_power.html


MBCLS07MBCLS07 - 10/18/2013 7:37:28 PM
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Terry, you're missing the point. It doesn't matter if California doesn't have coal-fired plants "in-state". If they're importing electricity from out of state generated by coal then California are using coal to power electric cars. It's simple logic. Clearly, the fact that coal is being used to power electric cars in California is central to our discussion so how is the fact that 40% of LADWP's electricity comes from coal a "red herring"? I don't think you understand the definition of a red herring.


MorePowerMorePower - 10/18/2013 7:49:35 PM
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California allows users to buy power from any state that has it available. In reality, most of California's power comes from the Hoover dam and the nuclear power facilities across the state.

It is true that power distributors, such as Enron, source power from coal plants throughout the region and Canada, but this power is only used during times of extreme load and MOST of CA's power comes from "clean" sources.


MorePowerMorePower - 10/18/2013 7:51:23 PM
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@ MBCLS07

You are aware that LA is an abbreviation for Louisiana . . . ?


MBCLS07MBCLS07 - 10/19/2013 2:27:38 AM
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@MorePower

"LADWP" is the abbreviation for "Los Angeles Department of Water and Power". Don't be so obtuse. Being a smart ass is not a substitute for being smart. You, like many other leftists, find it impossible to reconcile inconvenient facts with your ideologically-driven arguments. So you resort to red herring after red herring ("Beijing", "LA is an abbreviation for Louisiana") as you desperately try to steer the argument away from the point you just lost. You see, MorePower, intelligent, open-minded people are willing to reconsider their position when made aware of new facts. Narrow-minded ideologues like yourself just dig in and willfully ignore facts that don't fit the agenda. I'll repeat an inconvenient fact for you and you can choose to factor it into your position like a rational, logical person or you can continue to ignore it like a narrow-minded leftist ideologue. LADWP imports 40% of its power from out-of-state coal-fired plants in Nevada, Utah and Arizona. Obviously, electric cars in L.A. will draw upon that power, therefor (hold on tight, I'm going to apply logic here) electric cars in L.A. will be operating on coal-derived electricity. That was "skytop's" point that you refused to acknowledge and been foolishly arguing against all this time. Supporting environmentally-friendly energy, as I can tell you do, is great. Most people want clean and affordable energy and cars that don't harm the environment. But that doesn't mean you're entitled to your own facts.


MBCLS07MBCLS07 - 10/19/2013 2:33:19 AM
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correction: The "Beijing" red herring belonged Terry989. The "Louisiana" red herring was "MorePower's". You lefties and your fallacious arguments.


MorePowerMorePower - 10/17/2013 10:50:09 PM
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I'll pay an extra $100/yr if they "encourage" owners to use them properly by sticking to surface streets.


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