UAW Tires Of Automaker Record Profits - Wants Bigger Slice Of Pie For All

The greedy unions JUST DONT GET IT. With respect to cars, UAW members are paid VERY well and perhaps TOO WELL to be globally competitive. The UAW like other unions are killing the economy. This is not the rapid growth 50s and 60s where there was always a raise.

I will NEVER buy a vehicle that is UAW made. If you want to be pissed off, watch this video starting at the 1 minute marker. And these bastards want a raise too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVmKyJXHXRE

Here’s a plan for the UAW:

(1) Figure out a way to increase per-car profitability by 5% through your own increased productivity.

(2) Do #1 for 3 months WITHOUT telling upper management.

(3) At the end of 3 months, return to your regular level of productivity.

(4) One month later, after senior management has had ample time to make sense of the 3 months’ worth of enhanced profitability, and the one month return to previous levels, send your best UAW negotiator to speak with them to deliver this message: “Good sirs, we have worked hard to figure out how to increase the company’s profitability per car sold. By our calculations, we are able to make each car 5% more profitable, due entirely to our efforts. We have demonstrated that we’re able to do this on a sustained basis, as you’ve seen during our 3-month trial. We humbly ask for a share of that 5% increase. We’d like to receive 2% of that increased profit, while you get to keep 3%.”

Do you see what’s happening? You offer greater value to your employer, and in exchange, they compensate you for your increased worth. At least, if they’re smart they will!

But I don’t think the UAW is smart enough to try this, as I believe they’re not interested in generating more value for their employer, or share-holder, or tax-payers, or even customers. I believe they’re just interested in extorting everything they can get.

Union folks: All you do is show up for work, and you get paid, whether sales are up or in a slump, you still get paid. The company bleeds red ink when times are crappy, while you still get paid to produce cars few people want. Share-holders are taking a risk by putting their money into the company where you work. Tax-payers have sunk billions into the company where you work. Meanwhile, you feel you’re entitled to profit sharing.

I hope the UAW takes a lesson from previous bail-outs, and learns that a leech can only suck so much blood before the host dies, and can offer no more blood at all.

I think the big three should set aside a portion of their profits for bonuses to the lower tier workers, $16 an hour is about $33,000 a year, they probably can't even afford to buy a GM car unless it is 10 years old.

Give money to the people the people who don’t have much? Sounds like charity, or communism to me. I’m cool with emergency assistance, but I don’t believe in handouts to the unskilled. If you work on a car assembly line for $16/hour and you want to earn more money, consider upgrading your skills and getting a higher paying job...at market value. Alternatively, if you want to make lots of money, consider becoming an entrepreneur. Or a politician. Or a CEO, or exec in a Fortune 500 enterprise.

But if you find that you don’t have what it takes to become an entrepreneur, exec, etc., you may have to come to terms that you’re getting paid pretty much what you’re worth, as determined by the supply and demand of market conditions. Unless you work for the UAW, in which case you’re likely paid considerably more that what you’re worth in the real world.

If you want a better life, earn it!

(PS: I’m not holding my breath for unions or union folks to adopt this way of thinking. After all, that’s what makes them unions...their grand sense of entitlement.)

TheSteve, Bow to your corporate masters. You are so brainwashed to cater to the rich and wealthy that it’s sad. “Become a CEO”? LOL!!! Like that’s an option for the Union Employees.


Look at it like this; You believe that anyone can become a CEO. They pushed that into your brain so that when a CEO pay less taxes than his secretary, you believe that when you become a CEO, that you will be able to enjoy that perk. LOL!!! What you don’t realize is that you won’t become a CEO, and that tax break will never be yours.

The CEOs laugh at you guys because you are defending them taking advantage of the system to pay lower taxes, while at the same time you pay a higher tax rate.

Those tax breaks would help the economy more if they were given to people who needed it. Give a CEO a 10 million dollar tax break. How many cars will he buy with that money? Now give that same $10 million tax break to thousands of middle class people. How many cars and goods do you think that they will purchase? Allowing middle class and the poor to keep more of their money actually helps the corporations more. ECON101 I’m surprised that you aren’t for that?

I'm sure that the CEOs and Corporations wishes that everyone was like you. You defend them without realizing that defending them goes against your own self interests.

Just by saying “Just Become a CEO” proves that you’ve enriched yourself with the “poor people” is the problem propaganda that is pushed to you by the wealthy (and corporations) via the media. When the reality is that Corporate Greed is the problem.

The biggest entitlements are being paid in the form of corporate welfare and tax breaks for the wealthy. But those are the folks with the cash. So they spend it to trick people like you into believing that its the poor folks that are the problem. And it's working. They have you fighting against people making $30.00 an hour. That's class warfare. It's also "Divide and Conquer" which is one of the oldest tricks in the book. And you are helping with the division. Enjoy.

I meant to say that you're fighting against people making $16.00 an hour.

LexSucks: You missed my point by a mile!

My point is that it takes a certain kind of person to become a CEO, or politician, or entrepreneur, and the difference is in the way they *think*. Re-read my second paragraph. It’s the part you didn’t comprehend. I believe the reason why someone is working at a union line job at $16/hour is because they DON’T have what it takes to raise themselves to the next level and beyond. That’s not a matter of education, or degrees, or connections. It’s a matter of the way a person thinks. Most Entrepreneur millionaires did poorly in formal education, but they didn’t have expectations that someone would provide for them, or a sense of entitlement, or fear of being accountable for their own well-being. So instead of being employees, they did something else.

I’m certainly NOT fighting against folks earning $16/hour, nor do I look down at them. I’m immensely grateful that someone takes away my garbage each week, and someone stocks the shelves where I shop. Great. My message to these people is that if you want more money, holding a gun to your boss’s head with demands and extortion is not the best way to get ahead. Start your own company, or become a shrewd investor, and get rich! But in virtually all cases, that won’t happen, because they don’t have what it takes to get there. That’s doesn’t mean they’re lesser beings. It just means they’re not made of the stuff that generates considerable financial wealth.

I’m also not defending CEOs. I merely state that they get paid a lot more money to do an entirely different job. Ditto with politicians and entrepreneurs.

No offense intended, LexSucks, but your response waves a big red flag that you don’t “get it” either. You view me as evil because I dare say “if you want more money, earn it or generate it.” And that’s a painful message to hear for some.

If you want more money? Complain to the company thats making billions of off paying you slave wages. They are indeed generating money. Buy its for someone else. Someone greedy who wants more and more.

I'd guess you'd rather see those profits go to the CEO instead of the workers. Do you usually go to bat for CEOs, or is that how you've been conditioned?

The fact that the CEO makes what the CEO makes DOES NOT invalidate the reality that the UAW is greedy and killing the industry. The rich vs poor BS above is what Liberals do when they use class warfare as a weapon and as a way of "birdwalking" the issue. Notice that the conversation shifted away from the UAW's greed and put the CEO on trial??? That's birdwalking an issue and an example of faulty logic. The UAW is so in bed with the Democrats it's ridiculous, so of course the tired class warfare stuff had to be trotted out to deflect the stench of the UAW. The Left does not like truth and the truth is that the UAW is being ridiculous.

The GOP is perpitrating class warefare with thier policies that caters to the corporations and the wealthy. The unions are greedy but the fact that you are sticking up for CEOs kinda diminishes any credibilty that you might have had. Do you think the CEO's would defend you? Why are you defending billionares? Only in america.

Not only do billionaires have enough money to defend themselves. They also have middle class folks fighting for them, so that the CEOs can make every dollar possible. Complain about unfair pay, and out come the CEO Protectors ensuring that they are left alone, and that they make as much money as humanly possible. This is such a brainwashed society.

LexSucks: You speak of a "brainwashed society," yet here you are complaining how employees (I assume you're one) are entitled to more money than the market dictates. This is the greatest brainwashing of all: Aspire to be an employee, rather than creating your own wealth and self-sufficiency through entrepreneurship. That's what we, as a North American society, have been trained to believe since birth. We've been trained to play it safe, seek security and reliability. That's why employment, with a regular paycheck, and benefits, and a pension plan, seem so appealing to the masses.

Meanwhile, those who think differently, do differently. The majority of them are entrepreneurs, who have put up their own savings, forsaken the illusion of "security", and put their balls on the line (AKA "risk"), and created the companies that employ those who want to play it safe.

So my friend, you can keep complaining that the world should give you more, and how you're entitled to a better life that "the man" is stealing from you, while entrepreneurs actually make a difference, and get the income you wish you had. We each live a life that corresponds to how we think. Think like an employee, stay be employee. Think like a millionaire (and there are many ways to do that), become a millionaire.

The market dictates? BS. Costco pays people a decent wage with great benefits. The market didn't dictate that. The CEO went ahead and did it because it was the right thing to do. Why aren't other corporations doing this? It's because they are freaking greedy. Saying that the "markets dictate" is simply another way of saying "what's the least amount of money possible, that a company can pay its employees". It’s just another brain trick to make you think that the most they can pay thier employees, is already what they are paying them now. It’s freaking genius.


There aren't enough Costcos out there, for everyone to work. So instead, the market is being dictated by corporations who want to pay the least amount of wages possible. Some market huh?

It isn't as simple as thinking like an employee or millionaire imo. It’s about doing what is fair. That's the only way I think. That's not how a millionaire thinks. They think about money first and to hell with fairness. If that’s what it takes to become a CEO or a millionaire, then they can keep that crap.

I'd rather be a happy employee living in peace, knowing that I didn't make my millions on the backs of the poor and underprivileged (and the employees stayed in poverty, while I made millions). I couldn’t live with myself. I guess I’ll never be a billionaire.

And you are still defending the rich. Why do Americans do that? Why not fight for the poor? Nope. Poor people are lazy greedy takers looking for a handout. Or at least that’s what the wealthy has tricked everyone into believing. Please… The only greedy takers are the CEOs and corporations. But they are smart and rich enough to control the narrative. So they spend whatever it takes to get normal people to blame the poor for our troubles. Sound familiar?

And you talk about "Risk"? What they hell is riskier than living in poverty?

*What the hell is riskier than living in poverty?

I don't understand how anyone can live on $16-$19 an hour. You certainly could not raise a family, buy a house, and have a new car on that annual salary.

ask LexSucks...as soon as he finishes dropping another basket of fries, HAHAHA!!!!

Ask amgs65 if LexSucks slept with his girl friend? How else can you explain his anger towards my posts?

And you talk about fries? I'll be my life that your screen name "amgs65" is as close as you'll get to having an AMG associated with your name. You don't own any AMG anything. Which AMG S65 owner would come on an automotive website and diss Mitsubishi? Answer? None.

So keep pretending, because that is as close as you will get to an "AMG S65". Now go crawl back in your corner and keep wishing about the AMG S65 that you will never own. I'm willing to take this offline just to expose your sorry ass. I'm willing to let you know my identity.... I doubt that you will do the same. So just shutup and stop trying to silence me.