Official LS600h horsepower and fuel economy revealed

Is it true that it's gonna be AWD?

Why would you compare it to the V12s when it is only a V8????

amazing

If it is a 2008, its EPA rating will not be so awesome as the EPA will have a test that replicates real driving conditions (also expect engines that shut off cylinders to drop their ratings more than regular engines)

Lexus is definitely raising the bar with their flagship sedan for sure. LS600h L come with air conditioning which is controlled the body temperature of the passengers, wow! it really tight. With 444 bhp and get almost 30 mpg and goes from 0-60 in the low 5 is astonishing!!!! I belief the Lexus LS600h L base price is like $120K or $140K but not to sure.

I like this Lexus LS600h L than the MB S-class and BMW 7 series. In fact I think it look even better than the MB Maybach, hey it just my opinion.

Lexus

crazy

chewy

Not that crazy. A V12 TDI (rumored) would get similar milage with 450+ hp and 750+ pound feet of torque. However it is good.

Good Fuel economy, but mpgs are overrated... (not to take anything away from Toyota) but who cares about mpgs buying cars?

Impressive, for sure, but I'd rather see more diesels here in the US. I can't wait for my next trip to Europe. I always rent diesels when overthere. So much fun! ;)

29 mpg?
that's still worse than an S320cdi.
performace ins obviously better, but for people who care about economy, this sin't the car to have.
i agree with "Lexus", it does look better than maybach

Rupert,

I truly understand your argument. Unfortunately, in some states in America diesel engine is banned for passenger cars. I am not sure which States that apply the ban, but California is definitely one of them. Now, imagine if the crème de la crème of the entire Lexus fleet cannot be sold in the State where your ride plays a more significant role than your brain. This was one of the reasons why petrol engine was combined with hybrid technologies. Don’t get me wrong, I love diesel engine. I wish they lift the ban, thus people can enjoy more roads from their cars. Or better, I wish some manufacturers can make diesel engine that complies the tough California’s emission regulations.

stupid california, hummer, GREAT, diesel, BAD.
why???

Rupert,

Because America's government is full of hippocrites. We demand better fuel economy but we do to little to enforce it.

Also, I was always baffled as to why California allows gas-guzzling SUV's but not diesels. The more fuel you burn, the more emissions, regardless of LEV or ULEV ceritification.

I live in Albany, New York and diesels are banned here too. :(

Those are good number, I doubt the mileage will hold up in real world. But in that class of a car mileage really is not a concern. Good job Lexus.

Okay, reading Jakemiller's response in this thread, after replying in the other diesel thread I realize he is nothing more than a troll (stupid me for feeding him).

But to add relevance to this discussion: JasonRBare, the 600hL is being slotted against the V12's because it is Lexus's new flagship car aimed squarely at the S600, 760iL and the A8L. As such it seems that Lexus decided to fudge their numbering scheme when they added the electric engine to make it seem on par with the V12 engine size (from a marketing standpoint). Really is should be called a 500h, but I guess the hybrid engine counts for another 1L of displacement.

Lexus says it will feel like there is a V12 engine in the vechicle but with the mated hybrid engine it get's the gas mileage of a V8. I really wonder if it will feel like a V12?

The LS600HL is being slotted against V12s because that is the Power / Tourque Figures that the V12s produce.

The 2004 BMW 760iL V12 produced 444Bhp Exactly ( Not sure what the Lb Ft )

I95, I know why they're pitting it against the V12's, I just have an issue with them fudging the badge number. Granted BMW and Mercedes have been doing that recently (745 when it's really a 4.4, and E63 when it's really a 6.2), but a big number jump like that really takes away from the scheme and makes it something arbitrary. They should have keept is a 500h which is what is should be. Same with the RX and GS, they should be a 330h and a 350h.

i heard lexus my think of putting a v-10 hybrid to make the numbers closer(in some cases higher)to the german competition.

1995, the governator's hummers run on petrol or hydrogen.
the diesel in the hummmer replaced the petrol, a while back.

hang on, ill dig out the book on suvs i have handy...

the hummer h1 began with the gasoline engine, and since arnie was one of the first to buy one, his would have had the gas engine.
the diesel replaced it around 1995.

my book says the opposite!
it says it was petrol, but changed to the gm diesel in 1994.
in 1996 a turbo diesel was introduced.

I believe the original Hummer had a turbodiesel engine, Rupert. The car was first and foremost designed for military duties and hence a diesel engine was necessary for increased range and low flamability (diesel fuel doesn't explode as easily as gas).

well then my book is wrong.
stupid book.
lying to me.
no, i'm from the uk.
but the book is an american one.

huu, diesels produce less co2 than petrol.
want figures?
bmw 530d: 184 grams per kilometre.
bmw 530i: 212 grams per kilometre.

bmw 320d: 153
bmw 320i: 178
note than the 320d is faster to 60 than the 320i.

particles and things, not too sure.
it's all about smog or something.