Place Your BETS! Will The All-New Ford F-150 Be Able To BEAT Mileage Like This?

Place Your BETS! Will The All-New Ford F-150 Be Able To BEAT Mileage Like This?
In the world of pick-up trucks, the war is brewing. This is the war for market share.

Considering pick-ups are still a high priority when it comes to volume sales in the U.S., it's important that these vehicles meet consumer's expectations. And, obviously, the higher fuel prices get, the more critical that element becomes in the buying decision.

RAM has wisely decided to offer its pick-up with a diesel powerplant and Ford has decided to switch to an aluminum chassis to shed pounds and get its mpg up. While we're still awaiting the F-150, the RAM's EcoDiesel recently just received recognition from Consumer Reports for its stellar mpg figures.

According to CR, the EcoDiesel nabbed 20 mpg overall and 27 mpg on the highway. So, we want to know: do YOU think that the all-new Ford F-150 will be able to beat this, especially as it will be equipped with an EcoBoost motor?

If the F-Series DOESN'T beat the RAM, does it matter due to the price difference between gasoline and diesel?

What say you, Spies?


The RAM 1500 pickup truck now comes with an EcoDiesel option. The fuel economy numbers are the best of any half-ton truck.
 

 

Consumer Reports' press release follows:

Ram EcoDiesel 1500 Tops Consumer Reports Full-Sized Pickup Truck Ratings


The Ram 1500 EcoDiesel climbed to the top of Consumer Reports’ full-size pickup truck ratings with an impressive performance in the organization’s fuel economy tests.

The EcoDiesel (82 point overall road test score) turned in a best-in-class fuel economy of 20 mpg overall and 27 mpg on the highway, to help it score better than the previously tested Ram 1500 V8 (81) regular gas version and Chevrolet Silverado 1500 LT(80).

“These are about the same fuel-economy numbers that we typically see in a mid-sized SUV. The Ram is currently the only truck to offer turbo-diesel technology. It will be interesting to see what impact it will have on the half-ton truck market,” said Jake Fisher, director of automotive testing for Consumer Reports.

Consumer Reports engineers found the EcoDiesel to be as luxurious and refined as the previously tested V8 version. The EcoDiesel remains fully capable of doing dirty work when duty calls. A unique coil-spring rear suspension gives it a smooth ride, and the interior is whisper-quiet.

Consumer Reports noted some telltale diesel clatter at idle and low speeds, but the engine noise is well-hushed when cruising. Some buyers may like hearing the distinctive diesel engine note. The continued interior and powertrain improvements make the Ram a particularly well-rounded choice for most consumers.

Updated test results for the Ram EcoDiesel are available today at http://www.ConsumerReports.org.

In other tests, the redesigned Toyota Highlander Hybrid’s impressive performance earned it the top spot in Consumer Reports midsized SUV ratings. Consumer Reports engineers found it refined and comfortable, loaded with creature comforts, and the ability to tow 3,500 pounds. Yet it gets a very thrifty 25 mpg overall, which is the same as many small SUVs and midsized sedans.

The Hybrid takes the smooth, powerful V6 from the regular Highlander and adds a hybrid battery pack and three electric motors, increasing horsepower by 10, to 280. In place of the conventional six-speed automatic transmission, the Hybrid uses a continuously variable transmission, which is well-matched to the engine. That combo delivers 25 mpg overall, which is 25 percent better than the regular Highlander’s 20. Power delivery is smooth. Transitions between electric power and the gas engine are seamless. And the Hybrid can usually propel itself on electric power up to about 35 mph.

The new Highlander also handles better, with a steadier ride and reduced body lean in corners. When pushed to its handling limits, a well-tuned stability-control system kept things secure. Energy-saving regenerative brakes make the pedal a little touchy, but stopping distances were good.

Testers were impressed with Toyota’s new infotainment system, which has simple menus that make it easy to select functions, as well as knobs for volume and tuning. It also has excellent voice controls and one of the most comprehensive Bluetooth streaming-audio interfaces Consumer Reports has seen.

Complete tests results of the redesigned Toyota Highlander Hybrid, as well as additional reports for the recently tested Chevrolet Suburban(“Very Good”), Chevrolet Tahoe (“Very Good”), and Ford C-Max Hybrid(“Very Good”), are available online at http://www.ConsumerReports.org and in the October issue of Consumer Reports, on newsstands starting August 28, 2014.

Consumer Reports’ testing procedures are the most comprehensive of any U.S. publication or Web site. More than 50 individual tests are performed on every vehicle, including evaluations of braking, handling, comfort, convenience, safety, and fuel economy. Roughly 6,000 miles of general driving and evaluations are racked up on each test car during the testing process. CR buys all its test cars anonymously from dealers. Other reviewers base their evaluations on press cars that are hand-picked by the automakers.



chewychewy - 8/29/2014 1:07:11 AM
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Those are pretty good real world fuel economy numbers, it would be interesting to see what CR got in their real world test with the other engines.


85bmw745i85bmw745i - 8/29/2014 1:29:35 AM
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Ive heard of better real world numbers with the eco diesel. Ive heard as high as 30+ on the highway.


Agent001Agent001 - 8/29/2014 2:01:04 AM
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I got 24 city and 28 hwy on my test vehicle during the week I had it.

001


vdivvdiv - 8/29/2014 12:05:15 PM
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Have you tried a VIAMotors truck?
http://www.viamotors.com/vehicles/electric-truck/


HoustonMidtownHoustonMidtown - 8/29/2014 7:12:00 AM
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Is it fair to compare a diesel vs non-diesel ?


Agent00RAgent00R - 8/29/2014 9:58:26 AM
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Typically we try to keep things apples-to-apples, but for the sake of the debate here we're just thinking like basic consumers who aren't partial to what type of engine it is.

At the end of the day it boils down to TWO things: how much does a vehicle cost and what kind of mpg does it get.

And, frankly, I think it really just boils down to cost. Not every buyer is mpg sensitive but the majority is price sensitive.


trmckintrmckin - 8/29/2014 10:39:59 AM
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I've seen other reviews.. many are saying the ram eats through DEF at twice the rate and the scheduled maintenance is very expensive.

"We picked the truck up at 5:00 and paid $250.38 for the service. Here's how that breaks down:

Oil: $101.20 (11 quarts @ $9.20/quart)
Filter: $60.00
Labor: $10.10
Disposal fee: $3.00
Diesel exhaust fluid: $58.50 (6 gallons @ $9.75/gallon)
Tax: $17.58"

that's a hefty first service for a new vehicle. Many truck owners look at total cost of ownership versus mpg. If you are dropping $750 a year on oil and filters, you need some serious MPG improvements to justify the diesel upcharge. I like the mileage but right now... i don't think the pricing is there to justify an eco diesel. Especially with the ram's low payload.


trmckintrmckin - 8/29/2014 10:45:50 AM
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also have to throw in... toyota tundra comes with toyota care. 2 years or 25000 miles of service and maint. while the tundra is dated and terrible on gas, it's cheaper to own and just as (if not more) capable than the ram. will be interesting to see what the new aluminum ford f-150 numbers look like.


85bmw745i85bmw745i - 8/29/2014 12:20:13 PM
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I disagree about the ride quality of a Ram 2500 vs a Tundra. I do agree that the 1500 with the coil spring suspension rides better, especially with the air suspension. I have ridden in quite a few Tundras and they ride great. My friend has one that has a 6 inch lift and big tires, and I will say i have never rode or driven in a lifted truck that tracks and handles as stable as this. He took it to 100+ mph (very stupid) and it felt like 60. On the rutted up lease road it rode like a dream compared to the Fords we have.


trmckintrmckin - 8/29/2014 1:02:41 PM
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The Ram definitely rides better. Especially when empty. I don't buy a truck for ride quality. I need it for my business. I'll take a proven drivetrain, heavy duty components, towing, payload and reliability over a cadillac ride any day. It's a truck and when loaded, they all ride pretty good... The new tundra has a much improved ride quality over the last version so it's really not a selling point to most truck buyers unless you are using it like a SUV. The expensive service on the diesel and fuel price fluctuations scare me right now. If diesel ever drops below reg and stays there, it might make sense but the engine upcharge, excessive DEF usage, and maintenance costs right now just don't quite add up to a no brainer purchase. I'd love for it to but it's still about 2-3k more than it should be right now.


Vette71Vette71 - 8/29/2014 11:19:47 AM
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When it comes to initial cost don't forget Ford wants to raise the cost of the aluminum F150 by $3000+. Ram, even with a diesel uplift, still has some wiggle room there. Plus with diesel longevity resale is higher. One wonders about wear and tear on a small boosted engine, especially in a truck, after many miles. Agree with 001 on mpg. In a 5000# Jeep that engine delivered 27mpg around town and 31mpg at 64 mph. Pulling power of a hemi, and mpg 20% to 30% better than gas V6. What's not to like?


nguyenvuminhnguyenvuminh - 8/29/2014 11:43:56 AM
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I think with the diversity of offerings here in the US nowadays (as opposed to 10 years ago), I would agree with 00R. It doesn't matter whether you're talking about hybrid, diesel or petrol, more and more people are looking at the combination of fuel economy, features and price as the key variables in considering different cars to buy.


Agent00RAgent00R - 8/29/2014 12:26:07 PM
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It's not just pick-up trucks though, it's all products.

At the end of the day people want to save $ on a car as it is a depreciating asset. Unless, of course, you're a gearhead and it's more of an emotional commitment.


85bmw745i85bmw745i - 8/29/2014 12:21:26 PM
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I like this EcoDiesel. 420lb/ft torque, which is more than the Hemi, all while getting better fuel economy than even the smallest V6 offerings of the competition. Can't lose.


85bmw745i85bmw745i - 8/29/2014 5:22:57 PM
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not to mention the eco diesel will get far far better economy towing. Thats where the real advantage comes in. my neighbor had a smaller RV based on a GM platform and had the big V8, he then upgraded to a pusher with a cummins 5.9 and it not only pulled hills better, despite being almost twice the size, but fuel economy was almost twice what the gas burner VB8 got in the smaller RV.


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