CAR WARS! WHICH German Sports Car Claims The Throne? Mercedes-Benz AMG GT S vs. Porsche 911 Turbo?

They both suck. Lexus RC-F can beat them both.

I'm convinced, you're retarded.

Only if you're shooting heroin can the Camry RCF beat the Porsche or the Mercedes.

There is no need for other to make personal attacks against another. Now i have no brand loyalty and it appears that many do and the minute Lexus is mentioned so many unfounded and inappropriate comments come to light. If the RCF was a BMW people would hold this car up as the best and greatest. I have had the opportunity to see and drive the RCF, the 911 and RS5. The RCF is beautiful in the flesh and line are very similar to the BMW but lest face it, its a coupe and most will. While the RCF may not handle as well as the others in the real i.e., street/highway driving conditions the RCF is a much better car. Maybe a few you so called experts could conduct a little research before shooting of your mouth.

lol...RC-f can't even outperform an m3.

I just love how hard Benz is going right now picking fights with whomever they can lol! Taken it to BMW's X6 and 3 series with the C and GLE, then you've got the AMG GT raising the 911's blood pressure, and let's not forget Rolls Royceand Bentley's headache right now the upcoming S Class Maybach as if the best selling luxury car in the world, the standard S Class, wasn't already enough of a pain, lol, I'm loving it they are all over the place and building some bad ass cars in the process

That type or brand power is what has always put MB above BMW and Audi and Lexus. Mercedes competes with nearly everyone. Brands that BMW and the rest can't touch.

I'd put up with the truck face on the Mercedes and buy it because its engine is in the right place. The 911 is counterintuitive. People buy the Porsche Super Beetle so Porsche has to paste in all wheel drive to make handling more benign and gobs of electronic trickery to overcome physics.

The Mercedes is simply better.

The Mercedes is a German muscle car.

The Porsche is a poser's car.

pretty sure the 911 will still come out on top...

Unfortunately, numbers tell only half the story. Having driven 911s of all stripes my opinion is yes, they are technically excellent. The 911 is a testament to German engineering and technology overcoming an inherently flawed design. The newer 911s are numb in my opinion. Obviously, I have not driven the Mercedes--yet--but as for the 911, I'd rather have a Stingray for road and track, or a Sagaris LS7 at the track.

Reasoning with Porsche fanatics is like trying to tell a Liberal that we cannot tax ourselves to prosperity. Their mindlessness on the issue gets in the way every time.

MDarringer, Have you driven a rear wheeel drive 911 (997 or 991) in a race track? If you didn't, spare us from a biased assumption.
I love 911 and I owned one (997 911 GTS), I also had the chance to drive the new models and they were excellent.

But, frankly I liked the AMG GT too, it seems a pretty good car. However I need to drive it to compare between them. It might be my next sport car.

I have indeed driven 911s vintage to new, naturally aspirated and turbo. I enjoy wringing cars out and have access to or can get access to what I'd like to drive.

My remarks are not "assumptions" but reflections on what I have experienced directly.

The 911--for me--simply isn't the most satisfying to drive at the track. It's annoying as hell to drive on the 405.

The Jaguar F Type V8 and the Stingray are more satisfying in my opinion. In a 911 you're always aware of the mass of the engine wanting to make the car spin and make no mistake, even with AWD and all the technological trickery a 911 is still tail happy at the limit.

I also am quite delighted by various Nobles at the track that have high limits like a 911.

The 911 in a competent car at the track, but it's reputation of being the Holy Grail of handling is hype by Porsche fanatics.

The Mercedes is what Porsche is afraid to build i.e. a modern-day 928.

When they did the 928 it easily butchered a same-year 911.

They should slap the 911 name on the Cayman--a much better design--and call it a win/win.

Auto_Fan, shall we now discuss taxing our way to prosperity?

Porsche doesn't need a front engine sports car to replace the 911. They need a mid-engine Cayman like design with a slightly longer wheel base than the Cayman with more engine behind it. If you want better handling, it is hard to beat mid-engine. A 928 car is more GT than sport.

MDarringer, since you did drive it, I agree completely that your opinion is not assumption but reflection of what you experienced. I totally respect your opinion in this case. However, many people see that 911 is one of the best sport cars, either in the road or in the track. Its easy to call them fanatics, but they are also reflect what they feel about it.

The 911 design probably had a flaw putting the engine in the back. But, at the same time, this is what make this car special and made it an icon in car history. Its a matter of passion sometimes you cannot find a logic to it.

Now, you mentioned a great point regarding the 928. Yes, this what Porsche should have build nowadays. I have no idea why they didn't yet.

Thanks for your reply.

If you'd drive the 911, Stingray, F Type, and a Sagaris Speed 6 at Willow Springs, the 911 would NOT be best drive.

Track Only
#1 TVR Sagaris Speed Sic
#2 Corvette Stingray
#3 Jaguar F Type
#4 Porsche 911

Daily Driver
#1 Corvette Stingray
#2 Porsche 911
#3 Jaguar F Type
#4 TVR Sagaris Speed Six (I drive mine on dealer plates...loophole)

I very much like Porsches. I've had several, I still do, and I track them as much as I can.

I'm not a Benz fan though I like some of their cars.

However, 00R, if my choice was between a 991 TT (or TTS) or an AMG GT S, I would take the Benz. Keep in mind that my answer is predicated only on what I've read of the Benz. I've tracked the TTS but never even saw a GT S in the flesh so I reserve the right to change my mind... :)

Mercedes certainly went for that 911 look in the rear half of the AMG GT. I am a big fan of the latest Mercedes designs but so far I am not sold on the GT.

In a way the new 911 is more like a old 928 than ever before. If you compare a new 991 to the old mid eighties 911 SC and Carrera the new 911 is much more GT. It may have very good handling and has certainly overcome the rear engine disadvantage. However in terms of size, agility and price the Porsche Cayman, in my opinion is more of successor to the 80's 911 than the current 991 series from 2012. Yes I know there is the GTS and GT3. However the Cayman GTS really eclipses the base 911 Carrera and would eclipse the S if it had a bit more power.
The 911 may have slightly better feel on a race track but the new Mercedes is close enough to it that it offers a really viable alternative, along with the F Type and new Corvette(which an absolute steal to buy for the performance it offers). Yes there will always be the Porschefile faithful. However for a well off new buyer there are clearly more choices out in the market place now. It will be interesting if the 911 can continue to keep up with it's sales now due to the apparent clear competition. In the next couple of years you are also going to have the Maserati Alfieri and perhaps and Alfa based Maserati coupe. Whether they are as good to drive as a 911 remain to be seen. However if they approach 95 % of the 911's driving ability which the Benz, F Type and Corvette due it would be a no brainer to buy the anti 911. I also thing that the shape of the 911 finally has evolve more forcefully. It's time for a more 918 look. I also wonder if the new turbo engines will muffle that wonderful flat 6 sound. The Jaguar F type V6 sounds pretty awesome even with a supercharger. Time will tell in the market place.