So, The Tesla Model X Is Pretty Cool, But Did It Just OBSOLETE The Company's Other Vehicle, The Model S?

So, The Tesla Model X Is Pretty Cool, But Did It Just OBSOLETE The Company's Other Vehicle, The Model S?
This week one of the most anticipated car launches took place. Now we all are officially aware of the Tesla Model X sport-utility vehicle.

It features a blistering zero to 60 time, can seat seven, is said to be astoundingly safe — we'll let the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety judge that — and even has a Biohazard Mode. No, that last part isn't a joke.

Oh, and its doors also go up kinda like a DeLorean — they're called Falcon Doors, guys, not "Gullwing."

So by just about every quantifiable and qualitative measure it seems that Tesla has one upped everyone. Including itself.

Now that the Model X exists, is there really a reason to pick up a Model S?

THINK: If you have a fleet of cars, do you really need MORE than one electric auto to take care of your daily driving needs? I am sure there will be some that snap up two, but they will be few and far between.


runninglogan1runninglogan1 - 10/2/2015 5:50:42 AM
+1 Boost
Not at all. Some people want an SUV and some people want a sedan. If they want full electric, now they have a choice.


jameswisrikjameswisrik - 10/2/2015 6:52:58 AM
+5 Boost
The gull wings look great on a classic Benz. On this POS it looks like Ralph Macchio in Karate Kid doing the crane stand.


GMCadillacGMCadillac - 10/2/2015 9:15:48 AM
-8 Boost
well, people seem to like that car.


rockreidrockreid - 10/2/2015 7:43:12 AM
+4 Boost
well, some people cannot afford the extra $5000 or so Elon said the Model X will cost. And , let's not forget the first year or so of Model X sales will only be the extreme high end model starting at $132k. Model S sedan currently starts as low as $75k cash price before rebates.


Vette71Vette71 - 10/2/2015 9:46:04 AM
+4 Boost
That shot of the front end hit me. It looks like Ollie the one tooth dragon from the old TV show "Kukla Fran and Ollie".

There are only so many wealthy "look at me" people in the world who can use an electric vehicle. Early S adopters will trade in their Model S vehicles for the X creating a used market that will siphon off some S sales. Look for $ on the hood of the S in order to keep the cash flow coming. The intro of only top of the line X models is a sign they need the extra cash.


TomMTomM - 10/2/2015 11:01:13 AM
0 Boost
Lets see - Tesla has never made a profit - and sells less than 2000 cars per month- loses money on every car too - an obvious example of what all car makers should be - not.

The question is - will there be a reasonable market for Used Tesla S Cars. Tesla cannot support the price at the rate they have been going through cash. They don't just need extra cash - they need a car that sells in high numbers - and still makes money.

Question- what is the economic basis for offering rebates on your only product - and you already lose money on every one you make? Eventually - the free market will catch up to Tesla - it cannot be avoided.


mre30mre30 - 10/2/2015 11:07:11 AM
+1 Boost
As far as I'm concerned, they are both quickly on the road to obsolescence.

(1) Since the Model X (outside and inside) exactly mirrors the design of the 4 year old Model S, there are two issues (a) Apparently there is no mid-cycle style refresh coming for the Model S and (b) Out of the gate, aside from styling gimmicks (falcon doors) the Model X looks 4 yrs old and will age rapidly.

(2) Model X exterior is too plain for a $100,000 vehicle and at $100,000 it is too expensive for all but the small number of "vanity" buyers.

(3) All the styling gimmicks (may I go so far as to say "major design flaws"?) which would include (a) the falcon doors (which must dump rainwater on people when the doors open unless Tesla has engineered out rain) and seemingly which have so many moving parts I can't see how they hold up over time, (b) the gigantic windscreen that bleeds into the roof (how is sun glare dealt with?) and (c) the strange second and third row bucket seats (not kid-friendly, will conspire to keep people away from this vehicle in droves.

Once initial buzz wears off, I'll be curious to see how popular it is.

They are both obsolete and will go the way of the Fisker Karma in about a year.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 10/3/2015 11:02:54 PM
0 Boost
1.) The Model S is 3 years old, and is still one of the best looking sedans on the road today. It really doesn't need an exterior refresh, interior maybe.

2.) Tesla is supply constrained, so they always deliver the more expensive models first. It will take 9 months just to deliver on existing orders. Base price will be around $80k by the time they release an entry-level model (likely a 75D or 80D).

3.) They are the most innovative doors ever designed, you clearly haven't done much research into them. They are wide enough to allow easy access to the 2nd or 3rd row, unlike any SUV or minivan today. They practically go straight up, making it easier to get in and out of the car than a sliding door in tight spaces. For families, it is the easiest car in history put your kids in or take them out of a child seat. I'm not sure about the rain aspect, we'll how to see how that plays out but I'm sure they have thought of this and tested it out in wet scenarios... this is Tesla, not some crap automaker out of Detroit. The Model S has a lot of complicated electronics never used in any other car and they have held up well. As for the windshield, it works the exact same way as the roof on the Model S, which is the largest piece of glass put on any car and comes with no shading whatsoever. They tinted the heck out of it and there is 0 glare.

You are smoking crack if you think Tesla is going to be gone in a year. They are just getting started...


mre30mre30 - 10/4/2015 11:44:14 AM
+2 Boost
Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule, Elon, to converse with us plebes here on Autospies.


skytopskytop - 10/4/2015 9:38:07 AM
+1 Boost
Absolutely ridiculous impractical design.
When the gull wing door open after or during a rain, quantities of water pour into the seats drenching occupants.

Also, it is extremely difficult for women to gracefully exit a gull wing without having to spread their legs.


HughJassHughJass - 10/6/2015 12:08:14 PM
+1 Boost
Its already 4yrs old because it uses the same chassis as the Model S. In fact, its just a Model S with a station wagon body and gimmicky doors.


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