2007 BMW 335i Dynamometer Revisited: Was it a Ringer?

2007 BMW 335i Dynamometer Revisited: Was it a Ringer?
A few weeks ago, we got a surprise visit from the new BMW 335i coupe, one of the hottest cars of the year. We’d been quivering in anticipation for the 335i not because it’s a 3-series--although that pedigree doesn’t hurt--but because the mind-meltingly fast two-door offers BMW’s first turbocharged gasoline engine ever to be sold in the States.

With this in mind, we just had to take the new coupe to the dyno and see exactly how much power its twin-turbo powerplant puts to the ground. The results? 275 hp and 300 lb-ft of torque at the rear wheels--more than we expected. Rated by the Bimmer boys at 300 hp and 300 lb-ft of torque, it was pretty clear to us that the Bavarian masterpiece was a little underrated from the factory.

In the weeks since we first published the results of that test, we’ve heard some criticism of our conclusion that the 335i makes "closer to 350 hp" than the reported 300. We arrived at that verdict after some quick calculations, but since a chassis dyno only reports how many horses make it to the wheels, it’s admittedly a hard number to verify. We did four runs with that particular car, and the actual peaks were 276, 280, 280, and 283 horsepower. We published the lowest number to be sure there was no claim that we were exaggerating the engine’s output.

But what if this was a one-time fluke? What if that first 335i was a particularly strong example? Or--gasp--a ringer! The answer to that question appeared in the form of another 335i (this time painted space gray metallic) that BMW dropped off last week. Again, without hesitation, we grabbed the keys and headed for the dyno shop.

On the way, we were pleased to find intact the awesome midrange torque and incredible straight-six soundtrack. Reacquainting ourselves with the gauges, we noticed that, as with the original tester, the oil temperature stabilized at 240 degrees Fahrenheit while cruising in sixth gear at 80 mph. Lesser engines would melt at those temperatures!

Temperature? Wait! A quick look at the outside temperature display showed that it was only 78 degrees Fahrenheit outside. The last time we put a 335i on the rollers, it was 92. Everybody knows that engines make more power when they get cooler air--and that turbocharged engines are particularly susceptible to heat soak. We stopped worrying and started getting excited. This one might do even better.

We strapped the 335i down, started it up, and did three runs back to back to back. The results were very consistent, showing peaks of 285 hp, then 282 hp, and, finally, 287 hp. This 335i was even stronger at the top end than the last one, but not as strong in the midrange. Peak torque was stable through all three runs at about 285 lb-ft.

After the final run, we decided to grab audio of the 335i running from first gear through fourth. We expected to have the hairs on the back of our neck stand up at the sound of the 3.0-liter engine at full throat, but what we didn’t expect, of course, was a peak hp number nudging the 300-hp mark. That’s right--shortly after the shift into fourth, this second 335i peaked briefly at 299.93 hp.

Looking closely at the chart, there’s a likely explanation for that outrageous number. No, it wasn’t additional torque from a rough shift--the peak occurred too long after the gear change. Like most turbocharged cars, the computer allows a momentary spike of boost before stabilizing it at a prescribed level. We lucked out, as that spike happened right at the engine’s inherent power peak, so we got a little nudge in the final number. Whether the dyno numbers ultimately translate into 300 hp, 350 hp, or 327.543-to-the-fifth-power-hp, the results speak for themselves: this is one very powerful engine.

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MarkMark - 9/22/2006 11:37:04 AM
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And they would get a different set of numbers if they did it a third time. So what?


Agent004Agent004 - 9/22/2006 12:16:16 PM
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Damn, I can't wait to drive this beast....or what about the new M3/4? I haven't been this excited for a new car in a while.

But to arrive at 350HP from 275HP at the wheels is American car ridiculous. There isn't a 30% loss in the BMW drivetrain, lol, more like 12%.

Chip-


mkk21mkk21 - 9/22/2006 1:00:28 PM
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Maybe they tested the car out in Antartica to get the dyno tested 300 or 350 hp stated by some magazines.


thecarthecar - 9/22/2006 1:18:29 PM
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320HP is about right ..
not sure if they uses 91 or 93 anyway , hard to tell to be exact. that turbo is not on hi boost so tempaerature has less effect than other turbo cars in hi psi.


TauronLBTauronLB - 9/22/2006 1:29:36 PM
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No matter how much power it makes its still ugly. I hate to say it but the car doesn't look as good as the last gen car. Love the engines but I now officially hate every BMW in the lineup. They're all just so ugly!!!
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BM3WBM3W - 9/22/2006 1:43:16 PM
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Ricemaster.....

The 335ci is not barley faster than the IS350. It's alot faster. The 335ci 0-60 mph is approximately 2/10th slower than the 2006 M3. The 335ci is faster than the 2006 M3 from 80 - 120 mph. In fact, if you compare the IS350 or G35 to the 2006 M3 it would truly be an embracement.

The next road test between the 335ci, IS350, and G35 will prove just how powerful the BMW's N54 Bi-Turbo engine is over the competition.

I think the real question is whether the IS350 and G35 follow BMW's lead and install turbos on their engines to keep pace.


CPILLARCPILLAR - 9/22/2006 4:45:27 PM
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This is great.

I can't wait to see the M3 spank the RS4


HyundaiHyundai - 9/22/2006 5:25:41 PM
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What? BM3W, typical of you.

The IS 350 tests between, and including 5.1-5.6 seconds to 60 mph. The 5.1 seconds test is from Car and Driver. Where are your numbers and where are they coming from? You are talking in relative terms without any number to compare to.

Really, I do like the 335ci quite a bit, but you have things backwards; it is the 3.0l TT that is trying to play catchup with the G35 and IS 350. However, all are great cars, just don't get your panties in a knot over the 335, bandwagoner.


HyundaiHyundai - 9/22/2006 5:31:10 PM
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I checked a C&D article. The 335ci got 4.9 seconds to 60 mph for the record. That is amazing. I just HAVE to say this though, for the sake of being fair to both sides: IS 350 has AT and is 4-door, so a better comparison would be to the 335i sedan. May the faster car win. That's all it proves. :P


chewychewy - 9/22/2006 8:18:02 PM
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The fact is in the acceleration, it is right up there for what a 300 hp car with that weight should achieve.


vcowmanvcowman - 9/23/2006 12:19:42 AM
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just wait what a 500 dollar ecu upgrade will do. twin turbo, muhahahahahaha


Matthew1Matthew1 - 9/23/2006 1:33:55 AM
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It's called gearing ratios.

BMW could have bowed down to motoring rags and gullible consumers by setting up the ratios for 0-60 times, like Lexus did, or they could use their common sense and design ratios which better suit the engine, help economy, and provide quiet cruising at high speeds, think Autobahn.


Matthew1Matthew1 - 9/23/2006 4:18:37 AM
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It's true. 0-60 times can be easily manipulated, and provide no real relevance to everyday driving.

If you think it makes your Penis larger, so be it.


DarkOneForceDarkOneForce - 9/23/2006 10:35:26 AM
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The only important thing is to change tyres, and leave the folks driving M3s, C55s and S4s behind on the Nurburgring.

That's how good this car is.


AdmiralT20AdmiralT20 - 9/23/2006 3:47:19 PM
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The fact of the matter is BMW introduction of the N54 engine is for avoid tax implications they face with higher displacement engine to achieve the same power. Audi and MB and in the game, and are taking advantage of FI.
Now the 335 is not in the same league with the IS350, BMW had the Audi S4 and the CLK350 in mind: E90 335i against S4, and E92 335i against the CLK350.
BMW sees the S4 and the CLK as the target to match and exceed.
We have already seen comparison test between the E92 335i vs the CLK350 where it is clearly superior to the CLK350 vis a vis performance and price, and is close in terms of luxury.
The next series of test we will be seeing will be the E90 335i vs the S4.
I hate to say this but the people in BMW do not even consider the IS350 as being relevant to the 335i


MunichRobMunichRob - 9/23/2006 4:40:33 PM
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AdmiralT20, I loved that you said it...People at BMW truly don't believe the IS350 is a true competitor to the 335i sedan or coupe. Now that all the introduction hype of the IS350 is gone, were already forgeting about the Lexus.

A 330i outperforms the IS350 in all ways but straight line acceleration, even a 750i will produce faster slalom times and more g's on the skidpad than an IS350.

So guranteed the 335i sedan will demolish the IS350 making it tottally irrelevent in the luxury sport sedan segment (the only thing that made it relevent was the fact in was the most powerful in it's class).

It looks like the S4 is the 335i's sedans only real challenger, but if the 335i can out-perform the M3 in all but acceleration...I'm sure it's up to the task of outperforming the S4.


DarkOneForceDarkOneForce - 9/24/2006 11:33:10 AM
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AdmiralT20.
It's true that BMW made the twin turbo to avoid taxes for larger displacement, and emissions, and to lower cinsumption.

The benchmarks for the 335i were not the S4 or CLK 350, but the E46 M3 and C55 AMG.
Some german magazines tested these cars and found that
the 335i came close, or in some cases defeated these cars.

And bear in mind that the 335i comes with runflats with handicap the performance of the 335i.


The 335i and 335 Si will be for people who can't affort the more expensive, upscale and hardcore upcoming M3.


AdmiralT20AdmiralT20 - 9/24/2006 11:46:15 AM
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DarkOneForce,
You are right, the internal benchmark was the E46 M3 which in a way was the competitive match to the external threat from Audi and MB.
Matching the performance of the E46 simultaneously positioned the 335i against the S4 and CLK350, and will leave the 2008 E90&E92 M3 to go up against the Audi RS4& MB C63AMG


HyundaiHyundai - 9/24/2006 3:27:51 PM
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I completely agree that the 335ci and IS 350 are not in the same class. The reason why is because the ci is a coupe and the IS 350 is a sedan.

You guys are totally forgetting that the reason why the IS 350 performed poorly in the slaloms was because the VDIM was not defeatable. For 2007, the IS 350 now has a VDIM defeat switch. I smell a competetition soon.

Why are you guys discounting the 2007 G35? Can you say Germania?


beemazebeemaze - 9/29/2006 11:34:21 PM
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They need to use a MAHA dyno - the best and same dyno used to tune my Porsche.

http://www.maha.de


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