Honda pins U.S. hopes on diesel technology

Honda pins U.S. hopes on diesel technology
Honda Motor wants to persuade Americans to trade in their gasoline-fueled cars for diesel.

Over the weekend, Honda unveiled a new diesel engine that it says burns as cleanly as a gasoline one, and with about 25 percent higher mileage. The company said it hoped to start selling cars in the United States with the new engines as early as 2009.

While Europeans have embraced diesel-powered passenger cars, Americans and consumers in many other countries, like Japan, so far have not.

Diesel burns less fuel than gasoline but emits more pollutants, leading many consumers to associate it negatively with exhaust-belching trucks.

But as oil prices soar, many automakers have been giving diesel a second look as a more efficient alternative to gasoline. The trick has been finding a cheap way to reduce emissions of soot and nitrogen oxide, a greenhouse gas.

Honda's solution relies on a pair of new filters in the engine, which it says capture enough pollutants to meet California's emission regulations, widely considered the toughest in the world.

Honda's chief executive, Takeo Fukui, said in an interview that it had taken more than three years to develop the engine. But he said an even bigger challenge might be persuading American consumers to embrace it.

"We have to convince Americans to change their view of diesel technology," he said at Honda's test track in Utsunomiya, an hour and a half north of Tokyo. "Diesel isn't just for trucks anymore."

He was speaking at a press event at which Honda introduced an Accord powered by its new diesel engine, which had the acceleration of a gasoline car but was noisier. Honda engineers said they would reduce the noise down before putting the engine on the market.

At the track, Honda also unveiled a prototype of a new fuel cell vehicle that the company also hopes to put on the market in limited numbers by 2008. Fuel cells are a more futuristic technology that uses hydrogen to produce electricity to power the car. The engines emit no pollutants, only heat and water.

Honda says it has developed a more compact and powerful fuel cell, the power plant that generates electricity. Honda says its new fuel cell sits vertically and is small enough to fit under the floor between the driver's and front passenger's seats. Previous fuel cells lay flat under both seats, making the cars taller.

Fukui said fuel cells were still years away from replacing gasoline, because the cost of technology takes time to shrink.

Gasoline stations must also eventually be converted to pump hydrogen. In the meantime, Fukui said, diesel could provide a simpler and cheaper alternative to other more complex fuel-saving technologies now reaching the market, like hybrids.

Honda engineers at the event said a major advance in their new engine lay in the catalytic converter, a type of filtering device that scrubs engine exhaust. Honda's new engine uses a two- step system to change nitrogen oxide into harmless nitrogen.

DaimlerChrysler has also said it hopes to have a clean-burning diesel engine on sale in the United States in two years. It has developed new diesel engines using a different technology that turns nitrogen oxide into ammonia
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PlanoA4PlanoA4 - 9/26/2006 2:20:50 PM
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Honda, the first to market Hybrid technology stepping away from Hybrids? How soon until the others follow? Another indicator how how ill-cost effective Hybrids are.


DallasMR2DallasMR2 - 9/26/2006 2:26:37 PM
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first of all, Honda was not the first to market hybrid technology...they were the first in the US. also, i would say it's an exageration to say they are pinning their US hopes on diesel technology. they are building a diesel engine, yes...but to say they are putting all their eggs in that basket is stupid. does VW/Audi or Mercedes put all their US hopes on their new US bound diesel engines? hardly.

if anything they will be using this engine and the new VTEC system they have coming out in the next few years to boost their fuel econ as a whole...seeing as they are already the most fuel efficient automobile company in the world.


kart1kart1 - 9/26/2006 2:26:40 PM
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Honda just wants the diesel market and take the sales away from the Germans.


watisthatwatisthat - 9/26/2006 3:10:02 PM
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i wonder if this diesel would need pee to clean the engine......


BMW530iBMW530i - 9/26/2006 3:11:52 PM
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Honda isn't even a leader in diesel technology. They've never even considered it until now. Their 2.2-l diesel in Europe is ok from what I've heard, but they're just not at the forefront of this technology.

Also, this article smells a little fishy. Why does Honda all of a sudden "pin all their hopes on diesel engines for the US"??? Just doesn't make sense - unless they've developed something really fantastic.


DallasMR2DallasMR2 - 9/26/2006 3:41:11 PM
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this 'article' is stupid. they aren't pinning any hopes on this diesel engine other than to gain a few sales and to make another fuel efficient engine...nothing more. they are one of the very few auto makers that have actually made a profit this year...and this 'article' makes it sound like they are seriously hurting. it's laughable at best.


silverarrow2silverarrow2 - 9/26/2006 4:41:36 PM
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BMW530i,

Honda never claimed they were the leader of diesel technology.

Remember they never claimed to be a major force in the auto industry when they first started. They were unly known as a humble engine technology company. And now look at where they are now. Who knows maybe they'll become a major player or even the leader of diesel technology.
By the way, how long has BMW been doing diesel? They still not a leader of it, so we all understand it will take Honda some times, but their ambition is very good.


"They've never even considered it until now."

That is such an ignorant statement. That is how good investors work, you have to invest wisely and according to the market and cunsumers' interests. Why do you think Lexus has become such a force in the luxury market?


RupertRupert - 9/26/2006 5:33:41 PM
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bmw530i, their diesel is actually very good.
powerful and torquey, and smooth.


BMW530iBMW530i - 9/26/2006 5:37:36 PM
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I wasn't bashing Honda, but this article just seems bogus to me. ;)


chewychewy - 9/26/2006 6:47:09 PM
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VW will get their new TDI a year earlier, but competition is a good thing.


chewychewy - 9/26/2006 9:45:36 PM
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huu76

Do you even know how we can get hydrogen? Please, learn about diesels. Soon you will see modern diesels and how good they are. Those old 30 year old Mercedes diesels aren't representative of the current diesels. The TDI Jettas that you can currently buy, have engines designed in 1998. That is almost ten years old.


sulevsulev - 9/26/2006 10:30:26 PM
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DallasMR2, huu76

Perhaps you're not reading the article thoroughly. One of the reasons Honda decided to start building diesel engine is to make a diesel that is clean and good enough to be sold to all 50 States. I am sure you aware of the diesel restrictions in some states (California, New York, etc). I applaud Honda for their effort; they've always been one of the consistent manufacturers in making a clean, energy efficient engines. If Honda can pull this one through, it will be a great leap forward. Not only we will get a clean-fuel efficient engine, we will have more choices in buying cars.



bigslick83bigslick83 - 9/27/2006 9:19:03 PM
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plano, the first to respond to his own article...

anyway i just wanted to know who the idiot was who got drunk and pissed in a deisel fuel tank and found out it made cleaner emmisions.

seriously how did this come about, and they do use uriea filters to reduce emmisions right?


mplsmpls - 9/27/2006 11:13:12 PM
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Actually Hondas 2.2 litre diesel in the European market is pretty good for their first attempt. It it very quiet and refined compared with its competitors.. and they certainly do not boast about it..


BigD24BigD24 - 9/27/2006 11:33:41 PM
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Honda is first and foremost an engine manufacturer. They make cars to sell their engines not like other car makers. So their foray into diesel engines is another attempt to showcase their engine making prowess.


VWPeetVWPeet - 9/28/2006 10:07:33 AM
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First of all, Honda was the first carmaker who wants Hybrid technology but alone was a problem then they asked together with Toyota to do that. So Honda had his was the first in the USA/Canada and Toyota was the first in Europe.




DallasMR2DallasMR2 - 9/28/2006 3:14:46 PM
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Honda ws the SECOND automaker to sell Hybrid cars. Toyota had the Prius back in 96/97 in Japan i believe...and Honda came out with the Insight in America in 2000. Honda and Toyota did NOT work together for their hybrid techonology...that is pure BS.


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