WHO'd You Rather? Would You Want A PERFECTLY Engineered Auto From The Factory OR One With Quirks?

WHO'd You Rather? Would You Want A PERFECTLY Engineered Auto From The Factory OR One With Quirks?
From my experience, it seems that there are several different types of autos when it gets boiled down. That would be the following:

1) Perfectly engineered masterpieces — these vehicles are incredible feats of achievement as virtually nothing is wrong from the factory, there's just one problem: they're a bit clinical.

2) Vehicles with quirks — these autos are fun "in their own way" but will be shipped to customers with oddities or as we like to say "quirks." These can be some of the most fun but a major pain in the ass to deal with.

3) Disasters — I think this is pretty self explanatory. These are autos that are shipped from the manufacturer and there are known issues and they will make your existence a living hell. Everything that can go wrong, will go wrong.

That said, WHICH would you rather have? Assuming no one wants a disaster, would you rather have the perfectly engineered product or a quirky one?

Doug DeMuro is a writer who recently added an Aston Martin V8 Vantage to his fleet. Anything of the British persuasion is known to be riddled with oddities. The Aston is no different. See some examples, below.


Here are some of the odd quirks of the Aston Martin V8 Vantage. (Doug DeMuro)




MDarringerMDarringer - 3/13/2016 6:29:11 PM
-7 Boost
If it's my daily driver, I want it bulletproof. Because I love tinkering on cars, I am obviously OK with #3.


Agent00RAgent00R - 3/13/2016 7:22:45 PM
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You mean because you like TVRs you're OK w/ #3? ;)

#1 for daily drivers, #2 for toys, IMHO.


MDarringerMDarringer - 3/13/2016 7:43:58 PM
-7 Boost
Any vintage car is going to be #2 to #3. Installing a Corvette wiring harness and an LS7 will make any TVR easily in the second category. There are even aftermarket TVR wiring harness replacements that are a lot better than stock, but they are pricey

As I said, I love tinkering on cars.

Besides @Agent00R you wouldn't be caught dead in a TVR.


TomMTomM - 3/14/2016 8:07:29 AM
+1 Boost
There are no PERFECTLY engineered masterpieces - there is always something to do wrong. Bicycles have a basic setup that has been proven for decades - but still the chain occasionally falls off.

Those of us who tinkered on our own vintage specialty cars - or made their own cars from crash parts - don't expect them to be any more perfect than WE who work on them are. There was a TVR Dealer in New Jersey down between Eatontown and Asbury Park - so I actually had the "pleasaure" of working on a coupe of them - although I primarily worked on Transmissions. THe English made quite a few different small two seaters - and they were a blast to drive - and all OF THEM had electrical problems - plus other nagging things to go bump in the night. So we learned to work on them ourselves - or had a trusted mechanic nearby.

THe problem is - if the car has few problems - it is likely to have few reasons for buying it beyond reliability - ie - no fun. For those who want a toyota Corolla that's fine. However - ALL of the premium manufacturers (YES - from Rolls - Bentley - to Mercedes and Bmw - and even Cadillac) - made cars that eventually needed service - because there is inherently more than can go wrong in cars with lots of features. If you havethe money to buy new - and trade in during the warranty - you are both rich and lucky. The rest of us learned what to fix - what to leave broken - and what to upgrade. And the "quirks" are part of the charm.

If you really want rock solid reliabilty - buy a car From Fred Flintstone - that works on foot power.


TheSteveTheSteve - 3/13/2016 10:17:25 PM
+4 Boost
Reliability/dependability is a huge deal for me. Without them, it's like bragging about an overclocked, liquid cooled PC that crashes or hangs if you look at it wrong.


MDarringerMDarringer - 3/13/2016 10:57:33 PM
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So I take it you're into into an early 80s TVR Tasmin coupe converted to a 2.3 ecoboost? LOL


mre30mre30 - 3/14/2016 10:09:53 AM
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While you all are arguing about how the TVR was rebuilt, so it is actually functional - what's up with this DB (and I don't mean the David Brown as in "DB9") in the video who claims to own the car?

Why does that Aston have Michigan "US Congress" tags? Is Doug DeMauro really a Congressman? Why is he complaining about annoying things on what is likely an 10 year old AM Vantage with 55,000 miles on it that he probably picked up for $25,000?

Everything he is complaining about are needed repairs he should make - the doors don't stay open because the 10 year old struts are worn. The hand brake has been the same in Astons for like 15 years. He is just an annoying idiot, though he is apparently a well-known auto commentator.

Aston's are not for everyone - however if you buy a 10 year old one, don't complain about the stuff that is worn out.


skytopskytop - 3/14/2016 1:15:26 PM
+1 Boost
Quirks, defects, anomalies, gremlins and problems are far preferred to reliability and smooth operation due to perfect engineering. What a foolish question!


CANADIANCOMMENTSCANADIANCOMMENTS - 3/14/2016 3:01:05 PM
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1st car was a Corolla. 2nd was a BMW 3 series. Current vehicle is a 4Runner. Never ever, ever leaving the Toyota brand again. Zero surprises. Just start and go. Amen. #1. 24/7/365.


MDarringerMDarringer - 3/14/2016 9:07:45 PM
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1st car: avocado Mustang Grande. 2nd car: Jeep Cherokee 4.0. 3rd car: Jensen Interceptor courtesy of a "grandfather".



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