Second Model X Owner Sues Tesla For Shoddy Workmanship

Second Model X Owner Sues Tesla For Shoddy Workmanship
More and more buyers have lately started to show their frustration over Tesla’s Model X, a SUV that seems to have a lot of safety flaws. Californian Barrett Lyon has been very fond of its Tesla models so far, but his love is starting to fade away.

Following the enjoyment brought by his handmade Roadster and an early edition Model S, Lyon has decided to spend 162,000 dollars on a Model X, a decision that he now deeply regrets. “The doors do some weird, wicked things,” he said in an interview. Lyon claims the doors slammed shut on his wife and flung open in their garage, damaging them and also his property.
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MDarringerMDarringer - 6/3/2016 6:17:34 PM
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This is what happens when you buy from a car company whose prior experience was bolting batteries into a Lotus. If I were spending $162K on a vehicle it sure as hell would not be on a Tesla much less on a vehicle this ugly.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 6/3/2016 9:47:35 PM
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At least they are trying to innovate, and to a much higher degree than any other car company right now. After the door issues are addressed over the next few months they should be better than normal doors (I hope).


MDarringerMDarringer - 6/3/2016 10:26:53 PM
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So by that logic, we should believe that a meth addicted prostitute is as pure as the driven snow when she is arrested and cries crocodile tears promising to be a good girl.

At its price point, there is no excuse for the Tesla X to have such egregious issues. Making excuses for it is idiocy.

A Mercedes at this price point would never be this level of garbage.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 6/4/2016 5:03:11 PM
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Facts on innovation, are you kidding me? They were the first company to build long-range electric cars, eventually built the fastest sedan which also happens to be the safest sedan ever made with the most advanced autonomous driving features (oh, and it has the option to seat 7 people). The have the best infotainment system of any car and were the first to build a car with falcon wing doors. They completely changed the model for selling cars and for long range electric charging. They make over 20 modifications/improvements each week to their cars instead of waiting years to make a batch of changes.

What facts do you have that go against the statement I made? Just because there are bugs or defects, does not mean they are not innovating or trying to innovate. If there are 0 issues, it probably means you are not trying or pushing the envelope hard enough. That is the reason why Silicon Valley companies dramatically out-innovate companies in other locations--they get that.

I'm at 43,000 miles in my Model S, and so far have had far fewer issues than any other car I've owed (mostly Toyotas and Lexuses). However, even if you look at those that are having issues, the fast Tesla has the highest % of owners that would buy again versus any other manufacturer speaks for itself.


MDarringerMDarringer - 6/4/2016 8:12:24 PM
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@SanJoseDriver, we know you work for Tesla, but none of your "facts" are anything more than bullshit. #OnTheTake


Terry989Terry989 - 6/4/2016 8:51:11 PM
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Psychopath Matt's grey matter leaked out long ago. Fact of the matter is Tesla sold more cars in the US over the last 24-months than Jaguar and Maserati combined. #MattTheMoron


Randyt81Randyt81 - 6/5/2016 5:25:46 AM
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Being innovative doesn't excuse an egotistical owner building unsafe cars with poor build quality. San Jose Driver is giving out biased information. Yes they have done a great job building a long range and exceptionally fadt vehicle but that doesn't mean it's allowed to be a piece of junk.

My in law bought her model X, paid $157k for it and has nothing but problems with it. Sensors going wrong every where, doors malfunctioning, leaks, tons of fit and finish issues and more than I can list here. We are not talking about the same model, but the X so your car and your loyalty aren't just question here. Otherwise car companies do not do 20 modifications a week because their cars usually work at a higher % when they hit the sales floor. That's not a testament if innovation but more quality issues. And to bring up their autonomous feature is a joke when we all know it's a safety hazard and a technology you can't make work because it uses the quality of public roads as its data source so instead of accepting it and waiting until they find a better way to use it, they egotistically release an unsafe feature. I've played with the infotainment system and by far it is nothe the best. It's clunky, poor aesthetics, and it's giant screen appeals to the giant sense of the owners being better than others for simply owning a car. Being the first to build falcon wing doors isn't something you can state as successful. If it doesn't work then it's not a success. There's a reason no one had builto them genius, because all other companies knew and accepted that it's an engineering nightmare and couldn't have long term success. ThatThat much weight an telematics in a door is just dumb. They don't work right and never will. How many other firms do you think told them NO on buildingthem before they got the one willing to take the money.

Also, loyalty doesn't mean quality. We all know that a Tesla owner is he current day Primus owner, smug in their innovative, pompous ownership. No one who spends $157k+ wants to admit the made a mistake buying a car based on hype.

No where else would you accept a car that has this many flaws. This is byour far the poorest quality car I have seen since the old days when hyundai & iia came out making throw away cars. At least they priced them within reason. What will.be your answer San Jose when in.the next 2 years 4 or 5 other companies have a 200 range EV but don't have the massive issues Tesla has?


MDarringerMDarringer - 6/5/2016 11:30:47 AM
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From Car and Driver:

At a shareholders’ meeting conducted on June 1, Musk assumed full responsibility for the spate of problems that have plagued the doors, saying that it’s the result of the company “getting overconfident” and that the Model X program in general “has been challenging.”

Perhaps the most telling Musk quote of the event came at the beginning of the meeting. “We always try to do the right thing. We really care about that. . . . When we make mistakes it’s just because we’re being foolish or stupid or whatever, but it’s really always made with the right motivations. We say the things we believe even when the things we say are delusional.”




SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 6/6/2016 1:59:27 AM
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First off, MDarringer you are clearly some kind of troll. I don't work for Tesla, but do own one as well as being on the Model 3 list.

I think saying that Tesla has not innovated is delusional, and I believe I have listed out several objective facts. Some are subjective (infotainmment system) others are not (performance, safety, consumer reports reviews, charging infrastructure, etc.). Randy we can respectfully agree to disagree on Autopilot. I think even in its current form it is still safer than a human driving on the freeway for most well-marked roads (can be verified with accident data). My S doesn't have this feature, but if it did I would use it every day as I sit in 30min of freeway traffic.

I can't speak for the Model X, since I don't know anyone who owns one. Everyone I know with a Model S loves it and has no plan to purchase another make going forward.

Competition would be nice since it will force everyone to up their game (including Tesla). However, I really don't see anything on the horizon to challenge the Model 3. Automakers announce models years in advance, so far only the Bolt looks even close and let's be honest, the Bolt is a freakin joke compared to the 3. It won't compare in looks, performance, tech, or infrastructure. Maybe it will be slightly more reliable, maybe it won't. I don't know a single person interested in the Bolt, yet I know at least a dozen people that have put their deposit down and are eagerly awaiting the 3. It will take 3-4 years at best for other companies to catch up, and by then all the kinks will be worked out with the 3 and they will have economies of scale at both the Fremont plant and Gigafactory.


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