If Alfa Romeo Created A Z4 KILLER Like THIS, Would You Be Interested?

Since Fiat (FCA) owns Alfa Romeo, isn't it all the same? It's like saying "unlike GMC or Chevy, Buick knows design". The truth is that Fiat gives Alfa a larger design budget to work with because it's selling to a more design minded demographic. Since sales of the 4C coupe and spider are very disappointing, it's clear that high Italian design didn't help sales much.

I believe that what is being said is that the Fiat 124 Spider - based on a Mazda - should have been an Alfa. However - I don't agree - the higher end premium brand should produce its own designs - not a rebadged Japanese car.

@TomM Alfa is not a premium brand. If anything they are the WalMart of the Italian brands.

It doesn't have my interest, either from the brand that created it (Fiat/Chrysler or Alfa Romeo) or from looks alone. At that point, I don't care what the numbers are, of what it alleges to kill.

The post is 100% adolescent, masturbatory bullspit.

Mattie is 100% masturbatory bullshit, incredibly ignorant of the car industry and what customers want. Complete the opposite of TomM and Atrain, people who understand the industry. Mattie is just another incarcerated psychopath with a key board and internet access time.

A few thoughts. First, why would anyone want to kill a marginal product? Don't get me wrong, I think the Z4 is a gorgeous automobile with the top down but it's the bottom of the market if we look at volume.

Second, Z4 replacement has already been called into play so "aim where the puck was" wouldn't be a great strategy.

Lastly, Tom makes a good point. Of course, we're talking about Fiat, which used the Chrysler 300 to make a Maser so anything's possible...

So no, I don't they they're aiming to kill the Z4. Well, at least, I hope not...

And the Giulia has a LOT of Chrysler 300 bones too

And the Giulia has a LOT of Chrysler 300 bones too

I don't really care about where the bones came from. Rather it is whether the bones were engineered well resulting in a decent product. From what I've read the Giulia seems to be a decent product. It has the longest wheelbase in it's class resulting in the best rear leg room. The engine in both the 4 cylinder turbo and the V6 lead the class in horsepower and engine characteristics. The handling is on par with BMW but with a better ride. Styling is subjective and personal opinion so there is no point in discussing. The only area where the car is a slight let down is in interior quality. While perfectly adequate and nicely styled some of the interior plastics are not quite up to the level of Audi and Mercedes. This is a worth while trade off if the car is put together well and is reliable. That's the big question mark. As for grafting the Giulia front and rear end on to a Miata it looks nice. However I doubt this was the original design Alfa had in mind. Personally I like the look of the 124 Spider. I cannot comment yet on the Alfa brand being higher end as that has yet to be proven. One mistake I think FCA is making is in using too many Chrysler parts for Maserati's. I think they should be using more Ferrari parts. For Alfa I could see using Chrysler parts because they are or should be in a lower end market. However up until now Alfa's that have sold in the last 6 years have been nothing but rebadged Fiats. At least in the 90s with the 156 models and GTV FWD models they were true Alfa's. The used the "Arese Busso V6 engines and the 4 cylinder twinspark. But things went down hill when Fiat took over the premium platform from GM/Old Saab. Then they built V6 out a GM Ausiie engine block. So Alfa is at a crossroads. If the Giulia sells and they can sell the SUV's Alfa has a chance. They can then replace the Mito and Giulieta with a RWD design based on a shortened RWD Giulia platform. But if the Giulia does not sell Alfa is finito. An Alfa coupe and spider are a long way off at the moment.