Next Tesla Software Update To Transform Model S P100D Into A 10 Second Quarter Mile Monster

What good is this capability? After you do it two or three times, the battery drains, the motors/battery overheat, and the whole car goes into "limp" mode.

Do the customers really care? Did Tesla ask its customers? Does Elon Musk just dream up these strategies while in the shower every morning? Maybe Tesla needs to start doing focus groups.

If you get a Tesla - be sure you lease it.

Larry and Curly are here - where is Mo ?

6 months ago, Larry and Mo gave Tesla 12 months to live. Why do you now change it to 2 years, Curly ?

Since we are in a money saving mode, also stop the Fossil Fuel industries from fleecing the American Taxpayer in the amount of $20B/year.

Then we have:
- Agriculture Subsidies - $20B
- Interest Rate Subsidies for Banks - $7B
- Fossil Fuel Subsidies - $20B
- Mortgage interest deduction for residencies - $77B
- Credit for children under - $17B
- Subsidy package for military contractor Lockheed Martin - $87B

Yes, these are all in Billions. We need to plug the biggest leaks first.

You guys always have to find some way to put a negative spin on significant Tesla news. I'm starting to detect a hint of jealousy since I'm assuming your favorite car companies (which already can't compete with the P100D) are not able to give their owners a performance upgrade, via software, for free like Tesla just did. The 4-door family sedan P100D can now do 0-60 faster than a Bugatti, and you still find some way to crap on it. Classy guys.

Let me correct the misinformation that your are spreading:

1.) Subsidies that Tesla received are a rounding error compared to oil & gas. They have been planning on a 0 subsidy future for a long time, especially since the $7,500 credit will run out for them next year, Trump or no Trump.
2.) The Model S can do 50+ max performance runs on the drag strip before performance degradation is noticed. You can also drive 200 miles, then go to the drag strip and STILL get great performance.
3.) Whatever SolarCity did in the past just became irrelevant. Elon Musk has just announced that the cost of a Solar roof will be LESS than a normal roof. You will have to pay more for a roof that does not have solar capabilities in the near future. Even with 0 subsidies, you would have to be an idiot to not buy a roof that is less expensive and give you free energy.

You are officially smoking meth if you think Tesla won't be around 5 years from now. If you are currently shorting the stock, good luck with that.

See post above, their business model is going to be completely different under Tesla. They have already stopped doing leases and their new product will be a solar roof that looks identical and costs less than a traditional roof. Subsidies just became irrelevant.

First off, I'm a California Republican (fiscal conservative, social liberal)... and I actually believe all subsidies across the board should be completely dropped--all including those for the oil company that pays your bills, including the ZEV credits, etc. etc.

All I can say is we'll have to wait and see what happens in Q4 for Tesla and in 2017 for the solar roof. Musk has delivered on many of the things others said were impossible. We can speculate all day long, but in the end it is all about whether or not Tesla executes on their promises.

@BobM I'm pretty educated, have run a business, and know the difference between CapEx and Opex. I'm not sure you understand the difference and it is pretty clear you don't have a grasp of subsidies either (no federal subsidies for the Gigafactory). You are very keen on Tesla's subsidies, but don't seem to care about the much larger oil and gas subsidies--wonder why? We are talking about a $60-70 million a year subsidy on a $6 billion project that will create tens of thousands of jobs. Nevada made the deal, and it was a fair one. Are you capable of making one logical argument to support this: "And who knows how deep in the hole his GigaFactory is... he's still feeding of the government teat on that one!"

If in 2017 Tesla can produce a solar roof that costs the same as a similar normal roof, last twice as long, and produce free electricity. If they can do that at a decent margin--then they have a product that people would make economic sense to buy even if they are anti-solar and it be a product that could easily justify the SolarCity merger (along with reducing cost of sales, and operating costs).

Oh yeah, forgot to mention to Mr. Dishonest that Tesla had a net POSITIVE Cashflow of $21,878,000 in the last quarter. His links conveniently leave that part out.

I feel like I'm arguing with a wall--you only seem to absorb information that is convenient to you. No comment on the $21,878,000 positive cashflow last quarter? Were you not smart enough to read that part? Or the fact that $1.3 billion over the 30 year term is the amount I quoted as the subsidy amount (and it is a Nevada subsidy, not federal... they brokered the deal and Nevada will get the jobs and economic benefit).

Regarding the roof, you are already quoting outdated information. He did not waffle but made a very clear statement at the last public Q&A that the solar roof without subsidies will cost the same or less than a traditional roof.

First off, I'm a California Republican (fiscal conservative, social liberal)... and I actually believe all subsidies across the board should be completely dropped--all including those for the oil company that pays your bills, including the ZEV credits, etc. etc.

All I can say is we'll have to wait and see what happens in Q4 for Tesla and in 2017 for the solar roof. Musk has delivered on many of the things others said were impossible. We can speculate all day long, but in the end it is all about whether or not Tesla executes on their promises.

Whoa there butter-cup Bob, don't go blowing an artery on us now. I read your sources, and as you so elegantly state, they are all moonbat sites. Now go get back to you LeapFrog education games and work on developing some brain cells.

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