Check this out: Porsche wants help from Toyota for hybrid technology!

Thank you KeyserSoze for brining this up.

This news also showed up on Japan Today - but it was removed or expired.

here is the link:

http://www.japantoday.com/jp/news/319824.

The title is still there.

there is no period on the link

again:

http://www.japantoday.com/jp/news/319824

hybrids gotta be the best now, down with diesel damn it.

Alright, so there was something, but there is no confirmation or anything like that (since the article)

I agree - I definitely want to know what happened after this, between Toyota, Porsche, and the rest of VAG.

Well, kart1 and chewy-- Audi has been developing its own hybrid (to my annoyance) in the Q7. If Porsche lets logic in, I'm sure the Cayenne, as well as the Touareg, will share Audi's technology.

VW has decided to go it alone, and not sell out to one of the Japanese brands for this project.

And Lexus sought help from Porsche for suspension tunings I recall. Deals like this are common in the automotive industry.

BMW outsourced GM automatic transmissions.

The MINI One Diesel in Europe sources a 1.5-l diesel engine from Toyota.

Mercedes asked for Porsche's help in the early 1990s with their 500E / E500.

Ssangyong of S. Korea uses Merceces transmissions and engines.

Some of those diesel engines in Opel's are actually Isuzu-designed. Same deal with some of the diesel engines used by GM SUV's and pickups.

The Mercedes V280 van used a 2.8-l Volkswagen inline-6 engine.

The list goes on.


Porsche is just being smart. Toyota is the leader when it comes to hybrid technology, so they go to them. Pure logic.

"If that is correct, would that not mean Toyoat makes the best diesels then? Why not use a BMW diesel?"

No, it wouldn't. Because deisel and hybrid are completely different- what kind of thing is that to say?

There are plenty of companies that produce diesels right now, if not all of them, and it's arguable who makes the best ones. I think the most progressive is Mercedes-Benz, because they're producing BluTec for the first time, and in the US, to boot.

Some time ago i read an article saying that Toyota was being prosecuted by stealing the hybrid technology from an European company and that Porsche was in contact to that company in order to reach an agreement about the use of the technology! It might be an reason about why Porsche ceased negotiations with Toyota!

i don't see the problem if Porsch use some Toyota's experience for hybrid and Toyota for suspensions! Where is the problem????

Good to see everybody after TOYOTA's HYBRID SYSTEM.

Hence proved that Hybrid provides unparallel/matchless blend of Performance with Fuel economy.

WEll,good step from Porsche,this is definately going to help them.

JUGNU----->THE CARMAN

The way you randomly capitalize words in your posts is quite annoying.

And no, VW/Audi/Porsche aren't going to be using this system any more- they're developing their own.

I forgot to mention, with a gas-guzzling monstrosity like the Cayenne, Porsche NEEDS a fuel efficient system. However, the hybrid drive will only be beneficial within the city. Outside of it, the heavy Cayenne will still be a gas-guzzler, hybrid or not. Same deal with the RX400h.

I don't think that Porsche should worry about having hybrids. They're one of those car brands where the only people who can afford them don't worry about gas mileage.

Except the Cayenne V6- believe me, most of those people aren't rich enough to buy a BMW 330i, so they lease base Cayennes to say they have a Porsche. Pathetic-- but they need the hybrid system on that model only.

On all others, I agree. WIth sports cars, hybrid shouldn't be used, and the more powerful Cayennes? Well, someone buying a car with 340-520hp doesn't really care about fuel efficiency, do they? I sure don't. That much. I get 16mpg!

Hey Lexusis350,it's not only about gas mileage!the emissions levels go down with the hybrid system,and if you mate a Porsche engine with an electric motor,imagen the performance!!

If they're looking for performance, I would be surprised if Toyota would help them. Right now, Lexus is the only performance luxury hybrid and I don't think Toyota would help a competitor at their own game.

Well, more times than not, the "poor folks" can't afford a car in the first place.

So I'd rather have a luxury car and pump gas than not have a car at all.

true!

i LOVE the luxury of getting up to 400 miles on a tankful with my corolla. ;) (which also has fake wood trim. i could take it or leave it, but it DIES impress some passengers.)

oops. that's "DOES" not DIES

Not the first time Toyota helped out Porsche.

Back in the early 90's when Porsche was in shaky ground they invited some Toyota reps to have a look at their operation.