#NYIAS: TEASED! Infiniti Lets Us Have A Glimpse Of Its All-New Concept, The QX80 Monograph

So the next QX80 will NOT share the Patrol platform? Otherwise I'm expecting it to be a 2x-scale version of that QX50 concept. I wont get my hopes up too high.

QX80 to be based on Mercedes GL (now GLS) platform, was one of the deals Nissan inked with Mercedes amongst basing their all new small crossover on the GLA platform, and Mercedes Ising Nissan's pick up truck for their X Class.

@Car4life1

Well that's kinda interesting. Now I can see a lot of design possibilities using the GLS platform to work with.

Question: So since M-B is lending the GLS platform to Infiniti, are we to expect that FCA-Jeep doesn't have that level of access any longer? Next Grand Cherokee? Durango? ...so the Grand Wagoneer is definitely using a modified Ram frame?

Maybe I'm reading too much into so little info. idk.

QX80 above looks the same but with new headlights. There is a white one where I live. It is a big SUV...

It is likely a significant redesign, possibly on a whole new platform. The Patrol/QX56/80 in its current form has been around since 2010 so its time for a significant redesign.

Nissan needs to do something clean sheet. Basing a premium vehicle on the Patrol AKA a Third-World deluxe or the ancient Titan/Armada underpinnings just wont work. The current Armada/QX56 is a total stop-gap desperation move and the old-is-new Titan platform is equally desperate and pathetic. Perhaps Nissan should just accept that they have cocked up their chances of ever fielding a premium product in the large SUV segment and being taken seriously if they do.

MDarringer, that's quite some BS you have there. Can you at least be serious for once? The Nissan 62 SUV programme (Patrol/QX56) cost Nissan nearly $1 billion in overall development and had class-leading interiors at 2010 launch. They didn't keep up with necessary improvements and left them stale into the mid-2010s.

Trying to attack them for placing the JA60 Infiniti (2004-2010) in the F-Alpha A60 truck family, is a dead conversation and was a necessary decision to make back in 1999 at near-bankruptcy, considering how GM and Ford still even try to get away with such absurdity today.

The lack of multiple power train configurations, have not helped the Z62 (QX56/80) in the U.S. against the X164/66 GL/GLS, yet it is one Infiniti's most consistent breadwinners.

And two, I believe the term is developing/underdeveloped. Third world is a term used by ignorant folks that like to believe they're smart, when the original meaning has nothing to do with economics and is a relic from the Cold War.

First, second, and third are outdated terminology, inaccurately used in modern times by stubborn people who do not wish learn or plain don't know better. Second world was the USSR and/or communist forces, while third world were countries that had no dog in the fight.

The Y62 Patrol was a formidable offering at launch, no matter what your racist ass claims. It has been a successful global product, that only doesn't work in Europe due to its size and lack of diesels and was initially deemed too expensive to offer as a Nissan stateside (Ghosn changed on that). Too bad your limited exposure, wouldn't allow you to know that.

@Carmaker1 Poor cow...you're so #triggered. I hope the check from Nissan is in the mail.

I guess I tend to believe that the decision to offer the QX80 on the Patrol platform was an excellent - but hard - choice to make. It's a tough SUV. Infiniti put more life into it by dressing it up a bit. That kind of effort adds a crap-ton of profit for the bottom line.

If they want to use a different platform to continue the model, that cool too. But the original platform is still a good useful one. If not in the US, use it elsewhere in other markets that are more appreciative.

Agent00R, usually I have respect for your articles, as you seem to be the only consistent individual with a somewhat level head (unlike that yokel 009), but I do not believe subjective statements can used as fact.

When much of Infiniti's profit comes from this line, in it being their most expensive vehicle, I doubt it's a failure. Circle jerking on how terrible the design ad nauseam for the past 7 years is tired. Get over it.

It definitely sells in spite of its design, but taking quotes from ignorant journalists is not something that speaks of good writing in this context. Try sticking to the story or is this supposed to merely be a peanut gallery?

See, here's the problem.

I didn't mention anything about the vehicle being a sales failure in the short post above. I merely discussed its styling, which is completely subjective. Our opinion is made quite clear.

So, why are you trying to put words in my mouth?

And it's our show. We'll write as we damn well please. If you don't like what's on, change the channel.

Oh, really? Don't get it twisted. My feeling that amongst all of the "Agents"(besides Agent001), I mostly tolerate your writing, certainly doesn't entail that I am so enthused to come here.


Fair enough regarding the "failure" comment (sorry), but one can easily read between the lines anyway. I was addressing underlying sentiment with that comment anyway, not quoting you word-for-word.


I study commentary everywhere regarding automotive news worldwide, either refuting or supporting any statements that come across my eyes as worthy of me bothering to comment on. My commenting here is nothing special and is extremely sporadic.


If you are so annoyed by my criticism of one of your distasteful colleagues, I could really give a damn. I have never had much regard for the tabloid style reporting that Auto Spies does, often stealing from other sources without giving due credit and often being behind on new information, to lower your relevance.


I only signed up here, to previously refute information that had indirectly been taken from me and taken out of context. I suggest Auto Spies rely strictly on more original content and not "borrowing" from others so often, if you do not want to attract criticism from those bodies and have them pick at your
"works".


If not for your loyal regulars, I shudder to think of the state this site would be in (that's if it isn't paling in comparison to others already). I recall the nickname Auto Lies being bandied about by a many, so I wouldn't get so arrogant.


"Surfing" through a shitty news channel and dropping my own piece, doesn't mean that I'm wholeheartedly enamoured with the filler BS that goes for news here quite often.

It is not a good thing, when your users put out better content than the regular staff, even for the multi-account sock puppet Cezarr/Lana82/DabbyMr/etc spam artist that stays more on top of things, than you "Agents" do. Fix that and get back to me.

Eating popcorn now.

QX80 is their 2nd highest selling suv so I'd hardly call it a failure. The Patrol however lives on, as the new Nissan Armada will carry the torch beyond 2017 http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-nissan-armada-first-drive-review

As noted above, no mention of sales success/failure.

So, yeah...