Who Could And Should Answer Kia's Stinger With A Rival?

Creating a rival to the Kia Stinger presumes it will be a smash hit. While I would like nothing more than for it to do major volume, I don't think it will. If it had a V8 in it for its price, then maybe, but it doesn't.

Unless the market shows some sales - competing with this car is a waste of time - and effort that could better be spent on volume cars instead.

The fact is - the Stinger is nothing more than another Bmw 3 series competitor - and there are already LOTS of cars in that bracket - from lots of manufacturers. The actual price of a Cadillac ATS out the door already competes well with this car.

THe market is moving to SUVs of various types - and that is where the money has to go for most manufacturers. THere are already so many different models - and classes - that no one manufacturer will be able to maintain their offerings in ALL of them and still work toward the future of EVs and Fuel Cell Vehicles.

When the Kia Sedonna first came out - everyone who reviewed it thought it was great - and now sales have dropped to well below 2015 levels. I expect that same thing will happen for this - an initial time of reasonable sales - and then the drop off to very few.

Don't forget the ATS is also just a re-mixed (almost 3 generations now) BMW E90 ) which failed to meet the hype that GM wanted, so what do you do? You cancel it (along w/ the CTS) and hope that 1 car can be created to compete.

Awesome comparing a FWD car to a RWD/AWD car ..amazing concept and comparison

How about the new Hyundai G70 since this car won't be competing for buyers of MB, BMW or Audi?

I don't view a Sportback (such as the Stinger) a competitor to the G70 sedan. Why not compare it like KIA did when it was building the thing

Kia Stinger 2.0
BMW 330i GT
BMW 430i GC
Mercedes C-Class
Audi A5 Sportback


Engine
2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder
2.0-liter Twinpower Turbo inline 4-cylinder
2.0-liter Twinpower Turbo inline 4-cylinder
2.0-liter inline-4 turbo
2.0-liter four-cylinder


Engine
255 HP @ 6,200 RPM
248 HP @ 5,200 RPM
248 HP @ 5,200 RPM
241 HP @ 5,550 RPM
248 HP


Torque
260 LB-FT @ 1,400-4,000 RPM
258 LB-FT @ 1,450–4,800 RPM
258 LB-FT @ 1,450–4,800 RPM
273 LB-FT @ 1,300-4,000 RPM
273 LB-FT


Transmission
8-speed automatic
8-speed Sport Automatic
8-speed Sport Automatic
7G-TRONIC 7-speed








Kia Stinger 3.3
BMW 340i GT
BMW 440i GC
Audi S5 Sportback


Engine
3.3L Twin Turbo V6 Lambda II
3.0-liter Twinpower Turbo inline 6-cylinder
3.0-liter Twinpower Turbo inline 6-cylinder
3.0-liter turbocharged V6


Horsepower
365 HP @ 6,000 RPM
320 HP @ 5,500 RPM
320 HP @ 5,500 RPM
354 HP @ 6,400 RPM


Torque
376 LB-FT @ 1,300-4,500 RPM
330 LB-FT @ 1,380–5,000 RPM
330 LB-FT @ 1,380–5,000 RPM
369 LB-FT @ 1,400-4,500 RPM


Transmission
8-speed automatic
8-speed Sport Automatic
8-speed Sport Automatic
8-speed Sport Automatic

Ford could build a 4 door mustang :)

A 4-door Mustang would be a great MKZ replacement.

I liked the idea of the Fusion sport.. then it fizzled to impress

even when they were around they were mostly re-badge cars ...yeah great comarison

We have to remember that Kia and Genesis are chasing the industry leaders, as always. No one is chasing them. They are copying and cloning already-proven formulas, as always. The premise of this thread makes it sound like Kia just created a groundbreaking car that others need to chase. No.

It's already been answered. Heard of the Chevy SS?

Oh the car that GM didn't know how to market which led to sales being nill as well as it being DOA upon its arrival in the US? ..That SS? GM was scared so they made it look like a Malibu, they didn't want to go to the extreme that Holden did in AU..it is also a traditional sedan and not a sportback

One of the problems of the SS aside from being named after a trim level was that it was $10K overpriced.

As I read more about this vehicle as well as the future Kia Telluride, it begs the questions..."What is the point of Genesis?" Seriously, if Kia is going to produce nicer looking vehicles than Genesis, and that are at a similar premium level, there does not seem to be much reason for Genesis.

The idea is...
Chevy / Hyundai
Buick / Kia
Cadillac / Genesis

There does seem to be some lines being blurred as Genesis has been launched vs current product line(s) I think all of it will change/become clear since Peter (the KIA lead designer is retiring) and he brought in new talent to take over and lead the brands separate again

your reality is skewed and it is very evident