RECALL ALERT: More Bad News For TSLA — 11,000 Model X's Getting Called In

There is no "Getting Called In" since Tesla is using mobile repair units to check for an fix the issue. A van goes to your house or work, you unlock the car remotely, and that's it... no inconvenience at all.

Pst, note that Tesla gives owners the option to bring their vehicles to service centers if they do not want the mobile repair unit.

But, hey, let's argue about wording instead of talking about yet another Tesla problem with its seating.

Well 00R, when you report news you are supposed to be unbiased and try to paint a neutral picture--you are already putting a crapton of spin in the headline.

So I'm trying to balance out your spin with the other side of the coin. Yes, people can choose between going into a service station or having someone come to your house or work to fix it. Which do you think 99% of owners are going to choose?

How do you think FCA is going to handle their recall of 500,000 cars? Do you think they are going to send vans to people's homes or inconvenience everyone by forcing them to take time out of their day and come to a service station?

First off, I am not reporting. This isn't Reuters or AP and this site never claimed to be "just the facts, ma'am."

We may add some color — opinion — now and then, and for the most part we let users decide.

And, to your point about "your spin." I even wrote that Tesla owners HAVE THE OPTION in the story when it published. So, your point is for naught. Do you have the actual data since you claim 99 percent will choose the mobile option?

Don't worry about failures and downtime. You have a warranty, so the fixes are free. No problem! (Yeah, that's thinly-veiled sarcasm).

In my 2+ years and 34K miles of ownership, I like having zero squawks. I'm weird that way.

Are you referring to your Q5 experience?

4 years, 65k miles, only had one recall with my Model S and I got a $120k loaner car while they fixed it (they can recall my Model S all they want).

Why does anyone keep a car 4 years these days? Lease and dump. It's cheap.

I might lease the Model 3 and upgrade every 3 years, think there will be many improvements happening very quickly from here on out.

Well, @Matt, not all cars lease cheap.

@Agent00R then you're living in the wrong part of the world. Because elsewhere cars lease cheap.

Some of us put too many miles and dings on our cars to consider leases practical. Also if you like the car why dump it just when you get used to it?

For expensive cars if we have to have them leasing is indeed a better idea.

Score another for Bob.

It's been proven time and time again the most economical way to own a vehicle is to finance and drive it into the ground.

Matt, I was referring to the fact that some cars don't have great residuals so you'd have to be a moron to lease it.

Case in point, M2.

@Agent00R Residuals are becoming less relevant as the market softens and manufacturers want sales. The residual can be anything the lessor wants really as they chase sales. And every brand is chasing sales with borderline idiotic lease offers...if you know how to ask. A car like an M2--at least in California--would hold its value quite well and would make a great CPO.

Agent00R asked “Are you referring to your Q5 experience?”

Yup. So far, so good. I’m curious how it’ll hang out over the long term.

Agent00R wrote “…It's been proven time and time again the most economical way to own a vehicle is to finance and drive it into the ground.”


As an independent businessman who has kept meticulous records for decades, I can confirm that ‘00R is correct. I’d just add “maintain the vehicle well” to his statement. The best state to be in, is to have a reliable, healthy car, make no monthly payments (i.e., own it outright), and the only cost is fuel, insurance, maintenance and repairs. In decades’ worth of data, average monthly costs under these conditions are always well below the cost of financing or leasing a vehicle.

As an additional data point, talk to millionaires and you’ll learn that most US millionaires buy used, non-luxury cars! Why? You save a pile of money.

Mind you, if your objective is to do what you like, and you don’t care about saving money (and there’s nothing wrong with that), then do what you want, which might include leasing a new car every three years.

Has anyone lost a finger or other body part yet in the "Falcon Doors"? When is that recall coming? Ouch!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdPPp3hoGQ8&t=505s

Yeah, lots of chopped fingers and ears on those doors, rivals the French guillotine... We never had doors, windows, hoods, trunks, hatches, and sun roofs on cars that slam shut before, what are we going to do?!
Oh, the humanity!

@mre30: Your best friend has one - why don't you ask him ?

He doesn't have any small children, so no worries there!

However, his Model X (early production) has doors that freeze in the "open" position in the winter. It took Tesla three months and several tries to finally fix the issue (or maybe it just became 'spring' - we will see this winter), which occurred first when he went to a car wash in sub freezing temps and then next opened the falcon doors only afterwards they wouldn't close all the way (they default to a setting where they lower but stay open by about three inches and there is a constantly beeping warning) but let you drive.

Apparently water was seeping into the falcon mechanisms, freezing, and blocking the sensors which prevented the doors from closing. The first two times he had to park his X in his heated warehouse to let the doors thaw out. He thinks that Tesla didn't really "fix" the problem, they just turned off a few of the sensors - which would theoretically increase the likelihood that a small child's fingers could get injured.

He's a fan-boy with no young kids, so he just tells people to be careful and enjoys the coolness of his X (its cool - I will admit). However,Tesla's are far from being mainstream vehicles.

By the way, Tesla most likely did a 'lay-off' or 'staff reduction'. Trouble looming.

Teslas are very mainstream in Silicon Valley, probably will be in lots of places when the Model 3 hits mass production at some point. My neighbor hasn't had any issues with the falcon wing doors on his Model X (yet), his family loves it. This is also a sensor, even if you turn it off (not smart) the door will retract if it can't close.

Also it was not a lay off, otherwise Tesla would have to do special reporting to the California labor board and disclose the exact number of layoffs. I would expect something like this at least once per year.