The GREAT Debate: 00R Takes On The All-new Audi A7 — Has Audi Lost Its Touch?

The GREAT Debate: 00R Takes On The All-new Audi A7 — Has Audi Lost Its Touch?
I don't want to sound like Jerry Seinfeld but I've got to wonder, "Really?"

I ask that because the all-new Audi A7 is a snoozefest. A part of me isn't surprised as Audi has been quite restrained in the styling department of its latest and greatest models. The A8 was a vehicle that was supposed to break all-new ground for the marque, but if you ask us it's "same 'ol, same 'ol."

Is this the best Marc Lichte can do?

In a day and age where automakers are swinging for the fences, in my opinion, cars like the A7 and A8 are going to fall by the wayside whereas Mercedes-Benz's approach is working — that's a brand that continues to have hits. While many have ridiculed the rather ostentatious approach of the all-new Lexus LS, at least it makes you feel something

Now if I have a bone to pick with anything about the all-new A7, it isn't the rear end's continuous light bar or its rather passé "face." It's the interior. 

I can't say that Audi didn't try to swing for the fence. The problem here is it appears that the four rings didn't exercise any restraint. And that's a shame because Audi used to make some of the best interiors in the business. They were tasteful, functional and were an example of "how to design an automobile's interior, 101." 

Looking at the A7's cabin, I am dizzy. 

There's several layers of colors and materials and the multiple screens makes me wonder how much of a nightmare it's going to be to own this car down the road. As the owner — past and present — of several Volkswagen Auto Group (VAG) products, I am betting each screen is going to have to be entirely replaced on its own when something little goes wrong.

In the studio shot model, it features a two-tone black/tan interior. Looking at the dash I see several layers of the dash running horizontally. There's several horizontal lines and a sweeping piece of aluminum trim. After looking at the black dash, silver metal, tan lower dash, grey carpet and black mats it just doesn't come together well at all.

This has led me to ask a very basic question: Has Audi lost its touch?

The same questions were asked when Chris Bangle took over BMW's designs but the thing is they sold a lot of vehicles. I hope the same for Audi but I can't imagine the same success. That's because the BMW's exteriors, once again, made you feel something. With the all-new A7 I don't feel anything. 

What say you, Spies?


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Dexter1Dexter1 - 10/22/2017 7:11:13 PM
-4 Boost
To your point: The interior looks like something that would be found in the Lexus eyesores.


cidflekkencidflekken - 10/22/2017 7:23:20 PM
+1 Boost
When it comes to technology, I am one of the first ones to embrace new tech and say, let's keep moving forward. I am also one that actually typically likes straight, clean lines.
However, when new tech is wrapped around design that looks like it was designed by robots, then it's not for me. As much as the exterior of the A7 and A8 are bland and generic, the interiors are even moreso.

While I do appreciate the fact that Audi is not trying to out-Mercedes Mercedes' interiors and are wanting to present a different kind of luxury, it's overly modern and very cold to the senses. Even if they had added even one or two organic elements to the interior, it would have greatly improved the mood.

Now, that being said, the Lexus LS interior looks, to me, like it's trying too hard to be emotive, same with the exterior. So, the A7/A8 and LS represent the far extremes in the segment. But, it IS better than having the basic interior design of your lower models, with fancier materials (*cough* *cough* 7 Series).


MDarringerMDarringer - 10/22/2017 7:23:55 PM
+1 Boost
The exterior isn't as impactful (sic) as the current A7. The interior isn't terrible, but the touch screens are just eyes off the road driving. Audi is the Oldsmobile of the German Big Three. BMW is Pontiac heading for Buick. Mercedes is the old-school Cadillac gold standard.


bw5011bw5011 - 10/23/2017 8:21:33 PM
-2 Boost
I am glad they are going touch screen. I drive an Audi now and I miss the touch screen I had in my 04, 05 and 06 TL. After a week I would navigate it without looking. It was better than turning the dial and constantly looking at the screen to make sure I was on the right letter or setting. I actually love the look of this car and I was going to get the new RS5 but I think I will wait on the S7.


CarCrazedinCaliCarCrazedinCali - 10/22/2017 8:47:29 PM
+2 Boost
I can't agree with much of anything in this article except that I find the grill a bit too large... Interior has a great mix of materials and colors which are also appropriately placed throughout imo. Lexus has gone off the deep end with their exterior designs in an attempt to not be boring any longer, while the interiors are just plain boring and lack real smartphone integration as far as I have seen/read...


TheSteveTheSteve - 10/23/2017 12:43:13 AM
+1 Boost
It seems that Audi is betting heavily on distinguishing itself on the basis of "superior technology." To *me*, it just feels like "tech for tech's sake" -- more half-baked stuff to break down, and more menus and UI layers to navigate through, while diverting your attention from driving.

Stylistically, it's what we've seen before for years. Just more so. That wouldn't be a problem if they had a "pure," iconic, and beautiful design, like a Porsche 911, that could withstand the test of time for half a century, but I don't feel that've nailed that.


MDarringerMDarringer - 10/23/2017 8:26:19 AM
-1 Boost
But what superior technology? None. They aren't innovative in any way. If any one of the German Big Three does a tech feature, the other two have it in a minute or two.


TheSteveTheSteve - 10/24/2017 12:49:37 AM
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MDarringer: I am not claiming Audi has superior technology. I am highlighting that Audi is trying to distinguish themselves on the basis of "superior tech." For example, Audi makes a big deal of "TFSI" (Turbocharged Fuel Stratified Injection) by emblazoning it on vehicles, when in fact, this technology is found in a Kia.

In my view, Audi marketing folks are pushing the "we are tech" message, and for consumers who are tech-enamored -- those who believe "more tech = superior car" -- they'll suck up that marketing material as "proof" of Audi's superiority.

Personally, I care about result and "value to the consumer" rather than how you got them. Give be "better ergonomics" rather than "more technically advanced infotainment system" any day.


MDarringerMDarringer - 10/24/2017 8:26:38 AM
-1 Boost
@TheSteve Try to talk in circles: "I am highlighting that Audi is trying to distinguish themselves on the basis of "superior tech." Tech = technology.


Agent00RAgent00R - 10/23/2017 10:42:08 AM
+1 Boost
I was referring to my experience with my Touareg.

Buttons were peeling due to the use of soft-touch rubber. I wanted to simply replace the buttons and for that it would require replacing the entire head unit for a whole bunch of money.

So, I had an awful-looking radio for the remainder of my time with the car. Not what I wanted for what I paid...


TruthyTruthy - 10/23/2017 9:51:32 AM
0 Boost
I think the inside and outside look great. The exterior surfaces are well executed and yeas the interior looks high tech, but in an interesting way.
I notice no one on this site criticizes Porsche for the 911 looking the same for roughly 35 years. It is called branding.


carsnyccarsnyc - 10/23/2017 11:19:27 AM
+1 Boost
Audi managed to spoil an otherwise good looking car. The old A7 just became a classic.


Agent00RAgent00R - 10/26/2017 9:07:02 PM
+1 Boost
Kind of like the first-gen R8?


hangtime010hangtime010 - 10/23/2017 11:26:15 AM
-1 Boost
Always have Audi-haters here. For every Audi news posted, it's the same a-holes saying the same thing. "Why the camo when we know what...", "hate the oversized grill...", "Audi is the German Olds.."
Yet month after month, year after year, sales are still moving upwards.
Oh yeah, I forgot the "Lexus sells more than Audi in the US". And the US is the world when it comes to luxury car sales??? Where is Lexus outside the US?
Let the hating and down voting begin.


llaroollaroo - 10/23/2017 8:35:30 PM
+2 Boost
agreed. I drive Audi, I love Audi, I hate Lexus but that's my bias just like these guys and their bias except I keep it to myself ! ( until now lol )


mre30mre30 - 10/23/2017 12:17:08 PM
+2 Boost
The old A7 was a nice looking, but commodity, sports/luxury car. The new one is a commodity, nice-looking sports/luxury car. Nothing has changed.

Regarding the split screen - it is seeming like Honda was a market-leader with their split screen as it is now proliferating across (a) all Range Rover/Land Rover products (Velar, Range Rover and soon to be rolled out in RR sport), (b) many VW group products - prominent in the Porsche Panamera and Cayenne - prob soon to come in 911, Cayman, Boxster. (c) Lexus and Honda will continue thier variations. It is here to stay.


GermanNutGermanNut - 10/23/2017 9:28:01 PM
+1 Boost
No, Audi has not lost its touch. This headline is so silly. No one has even sat in the new Audi A7 interior to judge its materials quality or technology. Audi has a reputation for being a leader in technology and materials quality and this A7 looks no different. From Virtual Cockpit, Traffic Jam Assist and Level 3 autonomous driving to interiors that have routinely been praised for their craftsmanship - Audi has done a great job.

A brand that is approaching 7 consecutive years of year-over-year monthly sales growth in the U.S. while competitors see double-digit declines and has surpassed the global growth rate of BMW in each of the last 3 months has not lost its touch.


vdivvdiv - 10/23/2017 10:29:25 PM
+4 Boost
Less is more, people want a real driving machine, not a Nintendo DS video game. There is no reason for the climate controls to have a dedicated touch screen instead of a few knobs and buttons. They can easily have a climate app on the main touch screen and free up that center console space.


hangtime010hangtime010 - 10/24/2017 11:39:04 AM
+2 Boost
No-one here has seen the car in-person. No-one's been inside to really make a honest statement on what it's like to sit and feel the cabin.
I recall everyone was dogging Audi for NOT having touchscreens. Now what am I reading...people make up your minds.
I'm sure Audi knows how to sell cars to their customer base better than those on this site.


vdivvdiv - 10/24/2017 12:04:32 PM
+3 Boost
Touchscreen... One is more than enough.
It's not a tanning booth, it's a car :)


hangtime010hangtime010 - 10/24/2017 1:43:49 PM
+3 Boost
personally, I'm not a fan of touchscreens. I'd rather not have any in the car, but it's the trend and I believe we won't have a choice in the near future.


garysandiegogarysandiego - 10/25/2017 12:06:59 AM
+2 Boost
I'm not an Audi fanboy (as I mentioned before here, I haven't owned one in two decades), but I still don't get the anti-Audi bias here. The new A7 is a departure from past models, an evolutionary departure, which is exactly what one would expect from Audi. Yes, the new dash is angular, but I find it visually interesting. I'm curious to see it in person.

As for the touch screen: Hooray! I so so so prefer a touch screen. All screens whether touch or rotary knob make you take your eyes off the road. In my '11 S600 I can't spell an address with the rotary knob without looking at the alphabet on the screen, I can't toggle from nav to audio without looking at the bar on the top of the screen, etc. (Fortunately, there are some buttons which I can operate by touch alone based on their placement!) To me, the touch screen is a more direct interface. Others feel differently. Too bad we have to let the automaker decide for us. However, let's all just be careful when using those screens.


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