With The Horizon In Sight For ICEs, Are We Experiencing The Final High-performance Hurrah?

With The Horizon In Sight For ICEs, Are We Experiencing The Final High-performance Hurrah?
It's amazing to see how the automotive market has changed in the past 15-20 years.

BMW was a marque that only knew how to build driver's cars and today it seems as though it's forgotten how to make magic, with exception of a model here or there. Porsche has a greater focus on its sport-utility vehicles and sedans than its high-performance models. And, all-new disruptors — like Tesla — are redefining cool in the automotive sector. 

I think it's safe to say that we can see the horizon in the automotive space. Urban areas are doing their best to get the masses to take public transit and some cities are banning internal combustion engines (ICEs) completely. Autonomous driving is a hot topic and there's clearly a race to see who will deliver a Level 5 car first. Hell, it may not even be an automaker that gets the checkered flag. 

But there's one thing that's been interesting to see in the past 12-18 months. Enthusiasts are coming out in droves and they're uniting. Across the country cars and coffee events have exploded and movements like #SaveTheManuals have some real force. Although automated manuals are taking over, there's signs of life according to BMW's M head honcho — see quote below. 

The coolest thing I've seen in a long time is the debut of the Porsche 911 T. In a day and age where the 991.2 delivers the most luxurious 911 yet, the company decided to go back to basics with hardcore stuff like removing the radio/navigation headunit, using cloth seating and thinner glass. 

So, I've got to ask: Are we currently experiencing "the last hurrah" as it relates to high-performance automobiles as we know them? While performance won't go away, it won't be pure with ICEs and do-it-yourself transmissions. 

What say you, Spies?


...“The M2 is tracking at 40-50% above our expectation in terms of sales, with almost half of buyers specifying a manual,” he told Autocar. “Demand for cars like the M2, which is probably our purest M product today, has surprised us, and that opens opportunities for building more extreme cars, in the vein of GTS and CSL heritage models.

“Any car that has true heritage to motorsport is an opportunity for us. New markets are always opening for those cars and that will increase, so long as we keep building cars that are sufficiently special..."

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TheSteveTheSteve - 10/24/2017 11:54:17 PM
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Oh, don't sweat it, guys! Remember when fuel economy and lower emission regulations had people crying that would be the end of sports cars or muscle cars? What do we have today? Awesome, powerful, fun cars that get better fuel economy and pollute less! And everybody and their uncle is making them, including Honda, GM, Porsche, Ferrari, etc.

So don't sweat it. ICE cars will not turn crappy any time soon. They won't disappear this year, or the next, or the year after that. Stories of their demise have been greatly exaggerated ;-)


atc98092atc98092 - 10/25/2017 10:02:56 AM
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We went through the same hand wringing in the 1970s when emission controls were first introduced. Still doing fine. In fact, the greatest high performance cars of that era can't hold a candle to anything available today.

Besides, electric cars have some incredible performance possibilities. Just look at what a Tesla can do from a standing start.


CANADIANCOMMENTSCANADIANCOMMENTS - 10/25/2017 12:12:54 PM
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Considering there are 500hp, 600hp, 700hp, 800hp, 900hp, 1100hp and 1,500hp cars now, it is funny we would still refer to the 1960's to early 70's as the muscle car era. Are we in the Hypercar era now?


TomMTomM - 10/25/2017 2:36:47 PM
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In the 1970's we were told that by now we would be out of Crude oil in the world -and now we have more proven reserves than we did them. In fact - the USA now exports crude oil again - and could - if they were in the right place - fulfill their own crude requirements if needed.

THE end of the Internal combustion engine is now on the Horizon(NOPE) - but as I suspected - they to would evolve and we WILL get a lot of new technology that will keep them on the road for decades to come.

WE still do not have the Electricity available to charge all the cars that would be needed to replace personal cars here in the USA - and worse - they are closing ONE method of producing it - Atomic - rapidly. It can take years just to get permits to build new plants. ADD in - the fact that we do not have enough Lithium being mined to make all the batteries that would be needed for cars alone (ANd remember they are used in LOTS of other electronics too) and things will not change as quickly as predictors think.

Of course -there are these things - which will eliminate the need to actually go to a store to purchase things - you can order them right from your home - so not as many cars will be needed. What are those things? Mail order catalogs - the phone - the POST OFFICE(Both ordering and delivery) - UPS and FED EX also for delivery - and the internet - for purchasing as well. Believe it or not - you can even get consumable food delivered - I predict Pizza parlors will have kids delivering Pizza and other foods (As well as other types of restaurants) directly to consumers HOMES - replacing a lot of trips for different people to ONE by a delivery crew.

What's that you say - we have had all those things for Decades - even centuries! - I wonder when the need for using a car will diminish then? Apparently the END is not near!


PUGPROUDPUGPROUD - 10/25/2017 8:59:07 PM
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The one certainty over the past 100+ years of the automobile has been "Build a great car and they (buyers) will come." Build a great car now or in the future and enthusiasts will buy it and thru word of mouth influence others. Its power plant, size, shape, etc may change but a great car should sell, except for the one big threat on the horizon. The greatest threat to performance cars and all cars in general is potential legislative actions to redefine them, limit them or ban them entirely. In this regard the future looks bleak but rarely does the future turnout as predicted. Time will tell.


MDarringerMDarringer - 10/25/2017 10:52:33 PM
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Indeed you are correct and I also fully believe that in 15 years all of the downsides of an EV will be gone and the great cars will be EVs.


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