Contrary To Media Reports, Trump Knows EXACTLY Which Japanese Brands Build In the US

I question if Trump knows anything, other than he gets into less trouble while he sticks to a teleprompter :-(

I cringe when I see him on the screen, wondering what lie (AKA Alternate Fact) he'll tell. What credit will he try to take? Who will he blame? What "statistic" will he pull out of thin air, only to crumble when fact-checked? How will he further embarrass the nation that elected him to presidency?

(Note to Trump fans who are offended by my post: No, I'm not a Hillary fan! Not in the least!)

I am as open-minded as anyone but I too am deeply concerned when he gets in front of a microphone or shoots off a Tweet.

We (including him) would all be much better served if he dialed it down about 80% and just did his job.

I cant wait for us to get that Orange Baboon Out of there!

@Car4life1 That will be 2024

Nice to know u r counting down to Mdarringer but Virginia and Jersey think otherwise and judging on how trump breathes at the podium giving a speech huffing/puffing/sniffing, I just pray the fellow doesn't fall over and we all know Melania won't catch his fall she can't even touch the orange baboon's hand she's so disgusted

Time will tell

Lol kinda like his Obamacare and Border wall promises like, oooooh I get a good laugh watching tapes of the orange baboon saying Obamacare is dead, or endorsing republican candidates that lose right after his endorsements. Hahaha, remember "Big Luther", boy oh boy the retardicans got themselves in a pickle with this guy, sit back and enjoy the show

What Liberals fail to understand is that all Trump has to do to "win" is to say what he says.

People wanted to hear "build a wall", "travel ban", "kill Obamacare", and "tax cut." Trump said it and the faithful applauded.

The wall is not going well because of the swamp. Trump is seen as the underdog and wins with his constituency and he wins.

Liberals cheered and Trump is seen as the underdog and wins with his constituency and he wins.

The travel pan did not go as planned. Trump is seen as the underdog and wins with his constituency and he wins.

Liberals cheered and Trump is seen as the underdog and wins with his constituency and he wins.

Obamacare's repeal did not happen. Trump is seen as the underdog and wins with his constituency and he wins.

Liberals cheered and Trump is seen as the underdog and wins with his constituency and he wins.

The tax cut is not going well. Trump is seen as the underdog and wins with his constituency and he wins.

Liberals cheered and Trump is seen as the underdog and wins with his constituency and he wins.

Every time liberals lash out at the "orange bastard" Trump's constituents become more likely to get out and vote.

Liberals don't get it that they are losing rhetorically.

Thanks God I do not judge your country by your president, otherwise I would be thinking that ALL of you are like trump. By know I think that just 40% are like him...

@Yonder7 you're an arrogant bigot.

Matt, I must say, you and BobM are both very presidential characters! You're both welcome :-D

@TheSteve and you continue to be a bully. Your hatred needs to stop.

Priceless are the imbeciles that are constantly "translating" what the treacherous orange buffoon is saying.

BobM wrote “…He said BUILD, not Assembly n the US. If you don't understand the difference you're moron…”

To point out the obvious, your “build vs assembly” argument was fabricated in your imagination. *I* made no mention of either!!! In your argument with yourself, you just called yourself a moron. Wow!

You exhibit a truly bizarre pathology!

BobM also wrote “…[The United States] had a trade deficit in finished autos with Canada…”

Are you aware that Canada has *NO* automotive industry of its own? None. Nada. Zilch. Absolutely none! Name a Canadian car brand in production today.

Mind you, NON-Canadian car companies (e.g., GM, Ford, Chrysler) do have plants in Canada where the make or assemble vehicles. I hold the view they’re *NOT* rolling out “Canadian” cars, but that’s just me.

So much for the notion of a “trade deficit in finished autos with Canada”.

TheSteve cannot help it. He drives an Audi because resale matter not a bit to him. He bullies people as he tell them they are the bully. Definitely some psychopathy going on.

The only thing really missing is foreign patent protection. Funny how the Chinese WILL enforce their own patent protection for Chinese companies though which I believe is really a strategy to get companies to relocate to their jurisdiction. To protect my IP I am incorporating in Hong Kong which also benefits with ZERO taxes on foreign income as I refuse to pay Canadian taxes so that my money can be squandered on terrorist assholes with hurt feelings and Islamic Jihadist refugee vermin. Build a northern wall!

TheSteve -Your ignorance is only surpassed by your ignorance. Multimatic makes the GT40 in the Toronto burbs as do 3 armored car companies and once upon a time ago Ontario was a manufacturing powerhouse of cars, parts and lots of other shit before the asshole Libtard Government chased all our industry away and tripled our electricity costs in a 14 year duration. I see many states blindly following Ontario's stupidity...

qwertyfla1 wrote “…Multimatic makes the GT40 in the Toronto burbs…”

To put your statement back into context, you are attempting to support BobM’s (false) assertion “…[The United States] had a trade deficit in FINISHED autos with Canada…” (emphases added here, for clarity). Meanwhile, I pointed out that Canada has no automotive industry, and that they don’t make Canadian cars!

So, to respond to your assertion that “…Multimatic makes the GT40 in the Toronto burbs…”... Nope! That’s just not true. A quick fact-check reveals that The Ford Motor Company makes the FORD GT40. That’s why it’s called the "Ford GT40" and not the "Multimatic GT40".

Further fact-checking reveals that Multimatic is just a privately held Canadian components and technology SUPPLIER. Multimatic's web site (http://www.multimatic.com/corporate-overview/corporate-info/) even says so (maybe you think they're wrong or lying?). Multimatic does not make cars, let alone Canadian cars. They assist and support the companies that do, such as playing a role in helping Ford in the Ford GT40 project. Multimatic's assistance and support comes in the way of selling parts and technology to the guys who actually make the cars (Ford, in this case).

Your claim that "Multimatic makes the GT40" is at best uninformed, and at worst, disingenuous. You attempted to make out a parts supplier as a Canadian automotive manufacturer. That not true, unless you believe in "Alternative Facts."

Fact-checking is always a good thing.

BobM: It just occurred to me that your opinion about the alleged Canadian (finished) car industry might be based on your opinion of what constitutes a “Canadian” car. For example, when the Ford Motor Company (an US company) builds an assembly plant on Oakville, Ontario, Canada, where they roll out Ford cars, and then ship them to the US (and elsewhere), I consider them *American* cars that were assembled (or some might say manufactured) in Canada. However, if you consider these Ford cars to be “Canadian” cars, then I completely understand your statement when you wrote “…[The United States] had a trade deficit in finished autos with Canada…”

Based on your statements about the Ford GT40, you believe it is a “Canadian” car. Meanwhile, I hold the view that the Ford GT40 is an American car, and Ford just outsourced some parts and subassembly manufacturing from a Canadian company. That’s a huge difference! Are there any other readers here who side with BobM in seeing the Ford GT40 as a Canadian icon? As the pride of the Canucks? As an example of Canada’s automotive savvy? ‘Cuz if you do, it’s a pretty damned fine car that kicks some serious American butt!

So BobM, please tell me and all AutoSpies readers: What other cars you believe are Canadian? Are the Chryslers rolling out of Brampton, Ontario, Canada “Canadian”? What about the GM cars rolling out of Oshawa, Ontario, Canada? Are they also “Canadian” cars in your mind? And those Fords coming out of Oakville, Ontario, Canada?

This is a simple “yes or no” question. Are you up for it?:
[ ] Yes, these Fords, GMs and Chryslers are Canadian cars
[ ] No, they are not Canadian cars – They’re *American* cars!
[ ] No comment / Dodging the question


Yup, it’s all those Canadian Ford, Chevy, GM, and Chrysler products that have resulted in the “…[United States] trade deficit in finished autos with Canada…” that BobM quotes, and which he backs up with his links and hard facts! You Americans – you guys who claim you’re making America great again – you should be ashamed of yourself for letting Canada sell so many of their Fords, GMs and Chryslers in the good ol’ USA! Goddam Canadians. We need a second wall on the 49th Parallel to keep the flood of Canadian cars out of America! So unfair. Sad.

BobM: Thank you for your reply! I now see your misunderstanding, and how you have arrived at your erroneous beliefs, that “…[The United States] had a trade deficit in finished autos with Canada…”

I offer this last attempt to help you see where your thinking has led you astray. Hopefully, you can follow along!

1) General Motors (AKA “GM”) is an American company. It’s as American as apple pie and Chevrolet (no pun intended).

2) GM decides to do operations in Canada, so they create a legal entity called “GM Canada” (or General Motors Canada), located in Oshawa, Ontario, Canada. It is a division of GM, an American company. GM Canada is owned and governed by GM, an American company. It is, in fact, merely GM’s *operations* in Canada. This of this as “GM, and American company, doing some operations in Canada” and it’ll help you understand.

3) GM (an American company) instructs their GM Canada division to build a factory in Canada. They send money to GM Canada. GM Canada might secure loans of their own and/or get grants from the Canadian government. They build the factory in Canada. In this case, it’s located in Oshawa, Ontario, Canada.

4) GM Canada, a division of GM (an American company), hires mostly Canadian employees to operate the plant. They report to, and take orders from, GM (an American company). They are NOT an autonomous, Canadian company!

5) GM (in the US) instructs their division in Canada, to manufacture vehicles. GM (in the US) decides how many of each model are made. The GM plant located in Canada is merely a manufacturing/assembly facility for GM (located in the US, and American company).

6) GM Canada, a division of and owned by GM (an American corporation), ships the completed vehicles to GM facilities in the United States.

7) IMPORTANT FACT: The cars made by “GM Canada” in Oshawa, were manufactured by GM, an American company, in their own factory, located in a foreign country (Canada).

8) IMPORTANT FACT: The products rolling out of that “GM Canada” factory were always OWNED by GM, and American company.

9) IMPORTANT FACT: When those GM-owned products, made in a GM-owned factory (located in Canada) were shipped to a GM facility located in the US, this is merely a shipment from one GM division to another. It’s product transfer. It is **NOT** a sale of a Canadian-owned product to Americans. Therefore, it’s illegitimate to include these products in an alleged Canada/US trade deficit, as you allege in your statement “…[The United States] had a trade deficit in finished autos with Canada…”. This allegation is illegitimate, and 100% false.

10) IMPORTANT NOTE: Because GM, an American company, owns their “GM Canada” division, any profits made by the “GM Canada” division are rightfully returned to GM in the US. This is a standard operating practice. It’s totally legal, totally legitimate. It’s expected. After all GM Canada is just a division of GM in the USA.


I hope this helps straighten out your misunderst

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I don’t know what else to tell you to help you understand these facts.

LMAO, donnie dotard is a joke.

Never ceases to amaze me that the news media will omit a portion of a speech and purposely take it out of context. Yep, that is mainstream news these days. The National Enquirer is more accurate.

So much for car news...smh

I could make you a couple strong martinis and make you forget the discussion.

TheSteve You are a true Libtard whom suffers brain damage likely caused by your Clean Diesel Audi Q5 NO2 emissions. I'm a private label manufacturer but by your fucked up logic I am not but rather the company logos that embosses my product is that I contract manufacture to...

Magna International the worlds largest parts manufacture -a Canadian company (for now) also manufactures many cars like the BMW Z4, Boxter and others (may or may not be current) at some of there assembly plants but feel free to tell them that they are NOT a manufacture. Frank Stronach will be so disappointed.

What alternative universe are you from? Oh wait -California.

qwertyfla1: Like BobM, you are confused because you do not differentiate between two radically different scenarios. See if you can follow along:

(1) WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS: BMW (a German company) contracts (i.e., hires) Magna International (a Canadian company, not affiliated with BMW) to manufacture some of BMW cars. Magna is merely hired help, doing work on behalf of BMW. Magna gets paid for their work. Magna ships the goods, which they were contracted to produce, to BMW.

(2) WHAT IS *NOT* HAPPENING: Magna International, a Canadian Automotive Manufacturer, creates cars of their own choosing, and then sells them, either to dealers, or to the public, or to other brands (like BMW, to be rebranded as BMW vehicles). I repeat: This is NOT happening.

If someone, such as yourself, does not understand this huge distinction, then they might embrace the 100% wrong belief that the “Canadian” cars are being “sold” to Americans, and they should count in an alleged US/Canada Auto Trade Deficit. They might believe that a de facto Canadian car industry exists, and that it is competition to GM, Ford, Chrysler. This simply is not so. The Canadian contribution is merely in the form of hired help for car companies, such as GM, Ford, and others (which are not Canadian companies). See my earlier post made on 11/11/2017 1:44:18 PM to help you understand this better.

FACT: There are no Canadian car brands in production today.

FACT: The production of cars in Canada is either (a) by American factories such as GM, Ford, and Chrysler, or (b) contract work done for non-Canadian companies, such as BMW.

Pretty impressive. No dashed line. No *me*. No snippety-snap, "I declare this conversation over." drama. But then again it's another essay length spew. I got excited there for a second.

TheSteve

You clearly took the short bus to school and don't know fuck all about County of Orgin or many other things for that matter.

When I buy parts from my American supplier and do final assembly here in Cana-duh my shit then is "Canadian Made" as per the fine people of US Customs -whom are the experts here. The key here is "transformation of significance". Same applies to Autos except there are more stringent "country of origin" ratios for parts that must be met to comply.

By your fucked up logic my Hong Kong holding corp will own my Canadian assets that make private label equipment in Canada for a German and French company. Does this then mean that my made in Canada crap is really German and French made as per your argument or is it Chinese made because my holdco? I'm so confused...

If you don't think that GM Canada does not sell the assets to GM Murica but rather transfers them -then you're a special kind of stupid. Do you really think US Customs would allow that? All goods that cross that border are tracked and tallied on both sides via a Proforma Invoice -that is how they compute trade imbalances and duties if applicable you moron. I have exported and imported cars, parts and finished equipment so unlike you, I actually know what I am talking about here.

You are wrong but keep trying to defend your position and make shit up. Let it go and retreat to your safe space or attend another Bernie Sanders support meeting.

Gee qwertyfla1, I see your point. You're right. And the BMW Z3s made in Spartanburg South Carolina are American cars (so buy American!) And so are all the other BMWs and Hondas, and other allegedly foreign brands that are made in America, by Americans. They all American cars, just like GMs, Fords, and Chryslers. Thanks for setting me straight on that.

qwertyfla1 wrote “…If you don't think that GM Canada does not sell the assets to GM Murica but rather transfers them -then you're a special kind of stupid…”

Like BobM, you’ve lost sight of (or don’t understand) that GM Canada is merely a division of (not competing against) GM, an American company. So, when finished cars move from GM Canada to GM (USA), GM is just moving assets between divisions. If you wish, you can view this as GM “selling” a car TO ITSELF. When you sell something to yourself, you are no richer, and no poorer. This is true, unless a government taxes this transaction, in which case, GM has to pay the taxman. Depending on tax law, that tax payment might be incurred by the Canadian branch of GM (in which case it eventually rolls up in accounting to the parent company, GM in America), or by the parent company, GM in the US. So once again, this alleged “sale” of a GM car to itself, is in fact, is a financial wash. (I suspect you have no understanding of accounting, so you still won’t understand this or believe it.)

Some of the problems with Xenophobia (an integral part of Alt.Right and (White) Nationalists thinking), is that it includes beliefs such as:
- Foreigner are bad people, with an anti-America bent
- Foreigners are hurting America
- It’s a good idea to expel foreigners from America, and make America White
- It’s a good idea to build walls to keep foreigners out
- It’s a good idea to impose tariffs on foreign products coming into America

A big problem with this thinking, is that its believer can easily be deceived and manipulated into believe virtually anything that’s anti-foreigner. It short-circuits their critical thinking, and makes the believer even more paranoid and hateful.

In this alleged Canada/US finished car trade deficit, the Alt.Right-er / White Nationalists sees the problem as “Bad Canadians hurting America.” Meanwhile, if there is indeed a problem with not-made-in-America cars flooding in from Canada into America, the solutions are simple:

(1) Pass a law that prohibits American companies from setting up their factories in Canada. This would immediately stop the tide of Canadian-assembled GMs, Fords, Chryslers (and other brands) from entering the US from Canada!

(2) Pass a law that prohibits US corporations from contracting Canadian companies to assist in the development and assembly of American cars. This would immediately address the alleged problem of Multimatic in Ontario, Canada (who work under contract to Ford) from doing work on those alleged “Canadian” Ford GT40s.

Alt.Right-ers and White Nationalists cringe at these examples of American self-accountability, and would rather “see” (blame) “bad foreigners.” They simply cannot see the facts for what they are: American corporations created these scenarios, by building factories in Canada, and by contracting Canadian companies to work for American companies.

While the world sees Canadians as nice, polite, and arguably too-apologetic

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While the world sees Canadians as nice, polite, and arguably too-apologetic people, only American Alt.Right-ers and White Nationalists can see them as Enemies of The State, who are hurting America.

I'm beginning to think that TheSteve is recently retired given how much time he has to write floods of hateful, bigoted, intolerant, Alt-Left drivel.