Toyota Expects The Internal Combustion Engine To Be Dead By 2050

Toyota Expects The Internal Combustion Engine To Be Dead By 2050
Toyota expects the internal combustion engine to be dead by 2050, and power only about 10% of cars as part of hybrid systems from 2040 onwards.

The prediction, announced by Seigo Kuzumaki, Toyota’s head of advanced R&D and engineering, re-emphasises that car makers are expecting global emissions regulations to tighten, and electric car development to accelerate, at a pace that will end the sale of combustion engined cars globally by that point.

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CANADIANCOMMENTSCANADIANCOMMENTS - 11/13/2017 11:47:22 AM
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Toyota has always said the Hybrids and BEV's were stepping stone to Hydrogen powered cars. There is no reason for them and Honda et all to be mucking around with this technology and bringing cars to market in limited quantities if they did not see a market for it in the future. Hydrogen is the likely end game, not BEV.


LexSucksLexSucks - 11/13/2017 2:19:00 PM
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As long as there is oil in the ground. Big-Oil will make sure that the internal combustion engine will live. The only reason why we are stuck with the internal combustion engine is because of Big-Oil and their lasting reach.


templar19dtemplar19d - 11/13/2017 11:52:41 PM
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If you are such an advocate of electric vehicles and their superiority over ICE than let the consumer decide. NO, that can't be, our betters should choose for us. Greenland was warmer in 1000 AD, Rome grew in a warmer time. The world suffered a little ice age 1750-1860. It froze in New England and snowed in France in June/July. "Wait that's all white privileged talking." Tell that to the 100+ Million in Russia and China that were murdered under Stalin and Mao. Oh, and yes Hitler was a socialist too, killed another 30 million plus. I'll take liberty ANYTIME.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 11/14/2017 1:32:52 AM
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That's right, drop all subsidies for both EVs and ICEs and let consumers decide. I wonder how people will react to $6/gallon gas.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 11/19/2017 6:13:58 PM
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I think you are the idiot if you actually think big oil is not heavily being subsidized thanks to their government influence: http://priceofoil.org/fossil-fuel-subsidies/

And you are a bigger idiot if you think any manufacturer will be focusing on ICE after 2030.


7msynthetic7msynthetic - 11/13/2017 11:52:59 PM
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As long as there is gas for my E30 I'll be happy :)


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 11/14/2017 1:36:26 AM
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It may be mostly dead by 2030, BEV costs will be less than ICE well before then.


TomMTomM - 11/14/2017 6:38:24 AM
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Sorry - no

The problem is not the cost of production although the limited supply of Lithium will eventually slow down sales - it is the Infrastructure that we do not have.

Currently - there are large portions of the country that simply do not have enough extra electric power generation to supply the needs during many very hot summer days - where they impose required brown outs.

Now - add in the need to charge all the cars - likely to use as much energy as we are currently using for other things. Where will all the power come from?
Yes- I do not doubt eventually they will come up with it - but today - it could take more than 10 years just to get the required approvals to build an electric plant in many areas- and we are going to need THOUSANDS of them.

Add in the fact that many new projected facilities are only on line to replace ATOMIC power that is rapidly receding and closing down - and the time line simply is not possible - not anything close to realistic - AND it still fails to take into account the problems that rural drivers have with EV range which would require not only better batteries - but also VERY QUICK (in minutes) full charging.

IT is rural and long distance driving that will require still another solution over EVs - and that is still on the horizon - but who knows - it MIGHT be a better ICE engine - there is still ROOM for major improvement there - and with the loss of URBAN cars - gas might be cheap enough to be hard for any other system to overcome for a long while. Remember - in the 1970's we all were told that there was only about 30 years of oil left - and today our proven reserves are over 10 times what they projected then.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 11/15/2017 12:02:40 AM
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Lithium is a tiny fraction of what goes into today's EV batteries, Nickel is the main ingredient. Costs will continue to go down for car batteries at least for the next decade.

More electricity will be needed, but it can easily be accommodated with grid storage on existing plants. I don't think we'll see many new power plants over the next 10 years, especially if solar panel costs continue to drop. In fact, I would expect the cost of electricity to actually be lower than today in a decade.


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