2018 BMW 430i Vs 2018 Kia Stinger - How Do They Stack Up In The Real World?

LMAO

I remember test driving a 428i Gran Coupe Luxury Line (not even with the M-Package) and it was truly a sublime experience. Such an incredibly balanced, responsive, and refined ride. Not surprised that the Kia couldn't match those attributes, but they're just on their first steps whereas BMW has been at it for generations. Honestly, all this talk about BMW "losing" its driving experience, while real, to me, seems overstated. Yes, they're not making the flat-out sports sedans of the past, but they are still at the top of the driving experience.

I'd pay BMW prices for a Mercedes, but here the Stinger is simply too good for the price and BMW has lost its ultimate-driving-machine script. The 4 Series is as dull looking as it gets. I'll take the Kia's price advantage and superior reliability for the win, Bob.

For people who want to be SEEN in a car - they will buy the BMW - a KIA has no street cred today. IT may even be a better car - but it will be looked on as low class.

Kia (and Hyundai) may be viable alternatives to Toyota , and NIssan - and MAYBE Honda (Although I think that is a stretch) - but they still require lots of money incentives to sell them - and some are boat anchors on dealer lots.

and BMWs will bleed you dry after the warranty runs out

For a first time effort to make a decent grand touring sedan you have say that Kia has done an excellent first attempt. Sure refinements in steering and suspension are the next order of business and perhaps can be incorporated for next model year or mid term refresh. Its a dam good first effort and for the price you get a lot of car. BMW has been at this for over 40 years. I would be surprised if they did not win this comparison. But you really have to give it to Kia. They have come so far from the mid nineties. I remember when I used to sell cars at a Toyota dealership. Back then Toyota were not big enough and dealers could sell additional makes. The dealer I sold for also sold Kia's. We had a classic marketing joke. Back then the slogan for Toyota was "Oh what a feeling'. We thought the appropriate slogan for Kia was "Check engine light". (Kia Sportages used have ridiculous transmission problems)They were really a piece of crap back then. Today both Hyundai and Kia are a viable alternative to Toyota, Honda, Nissan.

Go drive a Stinger. I recently had the chance and it's tremendous. It's the kind of product Lincoln desperately needs. I'd love a Shelby Stinger with the GT350's V8 under the hood...if only.

That's what they said about Lexus and Lexus is pretty happy at the moment.

Yes, Lexus is very happy selling tons of ES, NX, and RX models since nothing else in their stable currently comes close to their German direct rivals. If Mercedes and BMW dropped their MSRP's by $10K and their lease offers by $200 on the E/5, GLC/X3, and GLE/X5 to match Lexus, the sales picture would be very different for sure.

@fiftysix Your comments show only your bigotry toward Koreans.

@fiftysix the mere idea that you think you've upset me and felt compelled to say it proves--yet again--that I am the one in control. I seriously do not care about you at all, but you feel duty driven to read everything I say and comment on it like somehow you can hurt my feelings. It would be funny if it were not so pathetic.

$48,000+ for a Korean Kia? Ha ha haaa. Are they kidding. What fool will pay that much for a Kia?
Can you say, 'buyer's remorse?'

Apparently, this was published in November. I think I remember it being posted here, too. $6800 off sticker to lease it. $299/month. That's only $100/month more than a Civic Si which starts at $10k less than the Stinger.

https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/2018-kia-stinger-gets-299-month-lease-finance-deals

@fiftysix They are not giving $10K on the hood.

Not only is it on sale, but the first handful came and went pretty quickly.

Not a big fan of the KIA's styling. Looks OK from the front, but the rear half isn't pretty to look at. Looks like a cheap Masarati knock off. Would take the 430i in a heartbeat.

Kia/Hyundai/Genesis might as well roll into one company under Kia and go for their market demographic of Buick, Lincoln, and domestic buyers.