Does Volkswagen's Comeback In 2017 Show That Americans Don't Care About Ethics?

Folks in the US can either be dumb or numb. I'll just leave it at that.

Brag and did can be two different things. This is more about lied, covered up, and lied again.

It was either that or vote for a woman who sold us out to the Russians, got Americans butchered in Bengazi, conspired to destroy the Sanders campaign, and was beyond careless with top secret information.

Can't get away from politics guys can you. Let me throw some heat on the fire...
"Americans with their blood have saved the world time and time again and you (English, French, etc) hate us for it. Get real. A bit of self examination is called for." See how easy it is to hate. Get back to talking cars based on the love of cars and not bring politics, ethnicity, race, gender, age, etc. into it. This is a car site.

PUGPROUD: As much as I say "give credit where credit is due," and as much good (and GREAT) that Americans have done throughout history, stats tell the the US lost about 419,400 lives (from all war-related causes, military and civilian) in World War II, or about 0.32% of the country's population at the time. Meanwhile, Russia lost between 20M to 27M (million), or about 10.6% of their entire population. If we look at military losses alone, we still get around 8.6M to 11.4M deaths, or about 4.6% of the country's population. That's staggering.

This is *NOT* intended to trivialize America's human cost in the war, but it does put the expression "payment in blood" in a different light. And no, Alt.Right-ers, I don't imply that communists are "better" than us. Just that they paid a much higher human price than America in our mutual bid to defeat Hitler's Nazis (and their allies).

I think that their "comeback" (backed by tons of cash on the hood) will be short lived and that people will go back to making more educated buying decisions, e.g., Hyundai, Toyota, Kia, Honda, etc.

TheSteve...I hear ya. Let me explain further. I subscribe to over a dozen car magazines from around the world. Many from the UK (CAR, AUTOCAR, OCTANE, best in the world, CLASSIC CARS,etc). You cannot read any of these and not find a derogatory comment and often more than one about America in every single issue. Give me a break, they are car magazines for car enthusiasts. What did we Americans do to piss them off so much? We saved them more than once in the past and will do so again willingly without question. Why do editors allow these slights to be printed? Can they not keep their cultural and political leanings for
cocktail party talk? Do the English need to put America down to build themselves up...I don't think so, but why has hatred penetrated into
the car lovers culture. There is no better group that doesn't give a damn when together who you are or where you come from...the talk is always how long have you owned it, what's under the hood, how fast will she go, etc. These negative comments about America have been going on for some time during both democratic and republican presidencies so its deeper than liberals versus conservatives or more complex. I don't know why but it soils their reputation and dampens my own enthusiasm for their publications.

Hey PugProud, your comments are extremely true and hit right to the point that jealousy makes people vile and vindictive. Living in Australia now for the last 8 years has been and amazing journey as well as a very challenging one from the standpoint of being a Proud American. I have to defend our nation almost daily and I can tell you the comments that come up are mostly from the college educated elitist that have no idea about real world blue collar struggles in Oz let alone the US and its challenges. America has been called on through every war to help and we are 1/5th the UN's annual budget yet all these other countries(the 100's) that contribute almost nothing want to then have a voice as large as ours. Pony up equal to us then you get equal voice!!!!!

My two cents on the article is from a very different slant than one that "Americans have no ethics"! Maybe just maybe there is a huge portion of the automotive buying public that does not subscribe to the religion of climate change and green worship. And if they do not subscribe to that ideology then they would also not put huge merit on the environmental laws circumvented by VW. I know when I owned my VW TDI all through the diesel gate scandal I never once worried about it supposed damaging effects on the globe. If you do not subscribe to an ideology then you are not going to go out and support and yell that ideologies mantras. So rather than saying Americans dont have ethics, my statement would read more along the lines of Americans seem to care more about fuel economy and real world everyday cost of running rather than green religion ideology.

So I'm sitting behind this Ford truck yesterday and looked over at my wife and say...hmm how in the hell is that POS cleaner than the A3 diesel we had. It can't be. I understand about the cheating and cover up but i really wonder about how much it was polluting the environment compared to other vehicles.

And to answer the question, 6 out of 10 or maybe even more dont even know what happened.

It sure says something about us... I see a lot of comments with a lot of false information likely from breitbart or fox, that's the sadder part of this whole media problem we have, lies upon lies.

So are you saying that if the information comes from one of these media networks(Fox or Breitbart) its false information but if it comes from one of the media networks you watch it is accurate and true???? Just need some clarification as to what you are implying.

As a full fledge member of the "NO POLITICS ON CAR SITE POLICE" I'm calling you out CarCrazedinCali. Please keep political comments to political sites, cocktail parties, and the voting booth. This public service notice brought to you by car enthusiasts who visit automotive sites to exchange views and thoughts on cars, not to hear someone else's political slant to the left or right. Have a good day, happy motoring!

If people really cared about ethics when buying a car they would not buy any of them. GM had the ignition scandal, Toyota had the unintended acceleration issue(as did Audi back in the 80's and 90's), VW had the diesel scandal, Ford has had engine fires. I could go on and on. So no there are no car buying ethics as buyers deal more in the moment. PugProud your right I have no opinion of that low class slum lord stupid tweeting man child with small hands who has his hands on the Nuclear button. Politics has no business on this site. Amen

exactly, every carmaker in the US has had some type of major scandal - in the US or in another market.

in every industry, all the major players are always trying to find new ways to lower operating costs, increase profits, & how to dupe their most loyal customers into repeatedly buying their products over-and-over again. If they don't do those things, their shareholders would most likely loose confidence, sell their shares, & put the companies out of business.

Nobody makes billions by being completely honest in the world of business in the free market.