Mercedes Powered Volvos May Become A Reality

That would be a big deal if someone believed Mercedes was a leader in engine technology. MC was using 2 and 3 valve engines long after the leaders moved to 4.

I guess if you associate the 3-Point-Star as a symbol of something worth coveting, then knowing your Volvo has an MB engine will make you feel like you have a better product.

I don't aspire to own a Mercedes. I'm familiar with:
- MB's new vehicle defects numbers
- MB's long-term reliability numbers
- How MB treats S-class owners whose engine mounts fail shortly after warranty

I'm not saying MB is horrible. They're just not on my list of considered brands for the reasons I mention.

For those of us who are looking at premium and near premium product - and are accustomed for them to have a few more glitches due to advanced technology - I would like to point out that neither Audi nor BMW are measurably better than Mercedes - I am sure you are familiar with the Plastic Bmw Water Pumps as well as their problems with Engine management software - and Electronic problems in general - and AUDI also has a poor reputation - not only for reliability - including engine failure - transmission problems(Both Auto and Dual Clutch Auto) as well its electronic problems.

The difference for me has been that I use a Local Mercedes Dealer that I have used for decades - and I have found they often are able to get problems solved and covered better than other ones. In addition - In that time - they have had only TWO service managers - and I know most of the techs by first name - they are well trained - and have been there for years as well - which is a good sign.

Noting that ASTON will be using Mercedes (Specifically AMG) engines in their vehicles in the future. AS far as being slightly behind the curve in Valve technology - I am happy not to have been the subject of experimentation by Mercedes on me and MY cars. I am happy that Mercedes stuck with TorqueConverter/Planetary gearset Automatic transmission rather that switching to Dual Clutch - which many other manufacturers have suffered through - including Ford, VW, and now Toyota (The new Camry has a Dual Clutch unit) and their abrupt shifting which appears to be inbred into the design. THAT may be good for Race cars - but not for consumer cars.

For me - having been in the Auto Universe rebuilding transmissions - I have felt that it is not whether a car will have problems - they all will - it is how they respond to them and fix them that matters. I find that the cars that are most reliable - tend to be dated designs without current technology. ANd it is correct - you will never have a window motor explode in a car with Crank windows.

TomM wrote "...I would like to point out that neither Audi nor BMW are measurably better than Mercedes..."

According to readily-available defect numbers ("defects per 100 new cars" and "long-term reliability"), both Audi and BMW score better than Mercedes. So if you're getting a car and you want fewer defects, then this is something to consider.

I realize this is not the only measure of a car, and it might not be a high priority for some consumers, and so it's less of a big deal for some than for others.

So...Nissan AKA Renault AKA Mercedes engines in Geelys AKA Volvos?

Why buy a Volvo with the heart of a Mercedes. Just choose to purchase a Mercedes and have the best of both engine and vehicle in one superb package.

Yeah buy that Mercedes with the Renault platform and engines.