Model X Battery Pack Involved In Fiery Crash Reignites 6 Days After Being Put Out

I guess whatever happens, financially, to Tesla will happen. My opinion is bankruptcy and then liquidation/sale of brand (but not liabilities) within 18 months (summer 2019)

However, I am fearful that we will be dealing with the follow-on of Toxic Tesla Waste 5 to 15 years from now as these vehicles age, depreciate, and fail.

Like any other, once-desirable but now just old, used car eventually they will be valueless and either be junked, abandoned, or just parked behind somebody's house.

It is at that point, where the inevitable Tesla's where the toxic/hazardous parts (and there are many) which were not properly recycled or otherwise removed, will either start to leech chemicals into the soil/groundwater or else they will simply spontaneously combust.

Yet another future Tesla surprise to look forward to.

By the way, despite 100,000's or maybe 1,000,000's of Prius-class cars sold, you do not hear stories of them in the news, catching fire spontaneously. I think time will tell that Tesla's have been significantly under-engineered.

To my understanding, most if not all Prius models have used something other than Lithium-Ion batteries. L-Ion is the type that is most likely to suffer from thermal runaway, so that's why the Prius doesn't have the same record. Comparing apples and oranges. L-Ion is used because of the weight to power ratio, which is much better than previous types. But it has that danger if damaged.

That's because only Tesla accidents make it too the news. https://electrek.co/2015/09/04/a-nissan-leaf-caught-fire-in-north-texas-cause-currently-unknown/

All cars catch on fire, ICE more than EV but that is not how the media portrays it.

Jazzy. That is a fair comparison, with a couple of exceptions. The Leaf doesn't have the performance potential of a Tesla, so much less likely to have drivers being an idiot behind the wheel. Also doesn't have a semi-autonomous mode that people can't seem to use correctly. But for battery chemistry, that's a fair comparison.

All EVs will burst into flames given enough damage, same as any ICE car. The more energy the car stores, the stronger the fire. Tesla's have 50-100 KWh batteries, other EVs have 20-60 KWh (new ones coming out will be higher like Tesla).

SJD Musk craves attention and constantly seeks to be in the limelight. When someone does that they should expect more than just positive reaction. The negative comes as well. The negative news on Tesla crashes etc. is likely in proportion to his attention seeking moves.

We need to understand that the very nature of batteries is that they store a lot of electrical energy for their size, so when they are physically damaged, there's a risk they'll release that electrical charge -- in the form of heat -- in an uncontrolled and untimely manner.

It's just physics and chemistry at play :-/ But if one is scientifically illiterate, then "Evil Tesla"!

17 car fires per hour, how many non-Tesla ones do you hear about?
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"17 car fires per hour, how many non-Tesla ones do you hear about?"

I imagine we'd hear more about the others if they happened because the car drove itself into the accident, or the fire burned for a week like a trick birthday candle.

The driver was responsible for paying attention, it's not a self-driving car (yet). The fire reigniting is a fair point, but this goes for any other battery.

“The driver was responsible for paying attention, it's not a self-driving car (yet).”

Sorry, but for years Tesla gladly reaped the benefits of public and press oohs and ahhhs as they beta tested their ridiculously named “Autopilot” system on the general public, you don’t get to just pretend now that every failure is the consumers fault. This is the bed Tesla made. They reap what they sowed.

This particular thread SHOULD BE about Lithium Batteries - not Tesla. WE already have seen spontaneous combustion in Lithium Batteries in a number of Smart Phone applications - as well as some Battery powered TOOL applications, and a number of TOYS as well. WHen subject to high temperatures - Lithium Batteries are unstable - and can LITERALLY burn a hole in your wallet. IN order to address these problems - GM actually spent time designing a cooling system in the Bolt/Volt etc cars to attempt to reduce these problems.

THeSteve is correct is stating the problem with them.