A Swing And A MISS? Has BMW Left Behind Its Magic With The Design Of The All-new 8-Series?

A Swing And A MISS? Has BMW Left Behind Its Magic With The Design Of The All-new 8-Series?
Yesterday marked the beginning of a new chapter for BMW as it unveiled the highly anticipated 8-Series. As a big body coupe, these are cars that BMW does best.

Think back to the 3.0 CS, the 1980s 6-Series and first-gen 8-Series. These are all vehicles that stood out from the pack and were lust worthy. More importantly, however, they were game changers.

BMW 8-Series

I can ignore the fact the all-new 8-Series' name is ridiculous. M850i xDrive. Not too long ago this would have simply been called an 850Xi and that's it. Clearly, marketing has gotten out of control.

What I can't ignore, however, is the lacking design. As I previously mentioned, I was expecting a groundbreaking look from this product. Named as an 8 it is, more or less, a halo car. The original 8-Series was a 1990s icon — equipped with pop up headlights, a narrow and tiny kidney grille and sans B-Pillar, it was risk taking and a breath of fresh air. The Z8 came about at the height of the retro craze, was a throwback to the legendary 507, and featured one of the best V8s the blue and white ever produced. The latest is the i8, which ushered in an all-new era of electrification and took design elements from the M1 Hommage.

The all-new 8? The only thing I think when I look at it — inside and out — is "Cool 6-Series, bro."

Having said that, the prototype drives were telling. Most of them said the same thing. It has amazing driving dynamics. This is a BMW calling card but, to me, it is critical that the vehicle's design has some cachet to it. And while the Mercedes-Benz S-Class Coupe is a bit long in the tooth, I can't imagine wanting this 8'er over an S560 Coupe at the present time.

So, Spies, I've got to ask: Is the all-new 8-Series a swing and a MISS? Did BMW MISS an opportunity to deliver a magical, groundbreaking product but brought forth a bland design?


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PUGPROUDPUGPROUD - 6/16/2018 7:50:24 AM
+2 Boost
Styling wise a big miss. Dynamics likely a big hit. If you have been a car enthusiast your whole life, valued and owned a few great driving cars but reach an age where sports cars and your physical condition no longer match there is very little in the market to choose from in the $100-$200K arena that lights your fire. The dynamics are there but the styling across the board are the same old, same old designs...M5, E63, S63, etc. The new 8 series unfortunately follows this trend. If I were spending this kind of money I would want both dynamics and a real sense of occasion each time I walked up to and entered the car. BMW I believe really missed an opportunity here to separate itself from the pack.


dlindlin - 6/16/2018 1:53:12 PM
+3 Boost
With a porky 4300 lb, dynamics cannot be a hit. Weight is the enemy when it comes to driving. This car should have been kept around 3800 lb max. It's now carrying extra 3 adults with it.


dumpstydumpsty - 6/18/2018 2:57:31 PM
+2 Boost
why should BMW waste energy & talent & funding on doing a spectacularly radical big coupe/sedan in time when those types of vehicles aren't selling strongly?!

I can see this new 8-er being made only to spread some R&D costs with Rolls Royce model development.

This 8-series isn't offensive. It's neat, clean, a good alternative to the S-class coupes.


carloslassitercarloslassiter - 6/16/2018 8:40:02 AM
+3 Boost
At best it's a mild refresh of the 6 series.


MDarringerMDarringer - 6/16/2018 9:21:44 AM
+1 Boost
When this fails--and it will fail immediately--BMW will blame it on the SUV craze rather than admitting they dropped the ball.

If coupe sales are soft, you don't put out a dull-as-hell-looking product with a price increase. The correct strategy would have been to produce the concept and deliver it to market at a price BELOW the 6 series.


TomMTomM - 6/16/2018 10:12:38 AM
+2 Boost
A few years back - Mercedes did an EXTENSIVE customer survey to determine that their customers wanted - and it turned out that Mercedes was supposed to the German LUXURY brand. SO Mercedes separated their boy racer tuner from the rest - and produced more luxurious car - and they sold well.

The problem is - I would be that if BMW did the same survey - their results would be to be the "Ultimate Driving Machine" - which is why their larger cars are generally passable but boring. What BMW needs - must do - to return to the leadership position - is to take their 3 series reengineer them so that they are the tops in handling at each level - entry level (Small engines) to Boy racer M Class. Fact is - BMWs future is also what it did well in the Past - when the 3 series was the best Handling Compact at any price point. That is not the case now.


MDarringerMDarringer - 6/16/2018 10:34:52 AM
+1 Boost
BMW surprisingly wants to be Lexus these days.


valhallakeyvalhallakey - 6/17/2018 2:34:17 AM
+2 Boost
Right on Tom.


carsnyccarsnyc - 6/17/2018 8:53:40 AM
+1 Boost
I’d say this is more Genesis meets Mustang.


mre30mre30 - 6/16/2018 11:40:44 AM
+1 Boost
In a world of SUV's BMW is not relevant - BMW is self-constrained by its heritage. BMW should have self-segmented 10 or 15 years ago like Mercedes so successfully did in the mid-2000's.

TomM is right - if BMW did a focus group, the results would be "ultimate driving machine". However, that does not mesh with BMW's SUV's and BMW's luxury cars.

BMW messed up big time 10 years ago when SUV's started to proliferate by trying to make their SUV's as what they interpret as "sporty BMW SUV's" instead of making them excellent SUV's. BMW-X would have been the SUV brand - with its own set of values.

In the mid-2000's BMW should have forged a path down the "X" road by marketing fantastic BMW SUV's under the "X" brand that were excellent SUV's first and BMW's second (they would not be sporty SUV's).

BMW could have then left the 3-series, 5-series (and the subsequent 1,2,4 series) to hold onto the "Ultimate Driving Machine" banner along with the "M" Line of course.

Above that, BMW could have further segmented the 6, 7, and 8 into a luxury sub-brand if they so desired.

BMW's recent "i" line of electric-sort of vehicles is a half-hearted effort to this vein, but how the sucky and cheap i3 and the sporty but expensive i8 came to be branded under the same unbrella makes no sense. The "i" line is a disaster in branding.

Instead, in 2018, we have what I will call "BMW-MUSH" this blob of loosely sporty products that all kinda suck.


MDarringerMDarringer - 6/16/2018 2:00:17 PM
-1 Boost
BMW isn't relevant in the SUV world because their SUVs aren't good at being BMWs. By contrast, a Porsche Macan is pretty good at being a Porsche.


mre30mre30 - 6/16/2018 5:30:02 PM
+1 Boost
Agreed - however Porsche is not exactly a mass-market brand, where BMW is definitely a mass-market brand. BMW has not known what it stands for since the period 1973 to 2000.

From 2000 to today, BMW has lost any focus about what it exactly stands for as a brand.


countguycountguy - 6/16/2018 11:58:25 AM
+4 Boost
Looks like a longer M4, so pretty meh.


templar19dtemplar19d - 6/16/2018 11:59:45 AM
+2 Boost
I had one of the last manual tranny M6's(2015). With all the nanny controls on it was sedate and soft. Turn them off and the car became a big V8 muscle car. I will wait to judge the M8. But as it is it does appear the be a refreshed 6....


CANADIANCOMMENTSCANADIANCOMMENTS - 6/16/2018 12:31:01 PM
+2 Boost
I just had a look at the concept and compared it to the production car in this photo. Such a letdown and disappointment. BMW can design a beautiful car, but they can't seem to produce one these days.


xjug1987axjug1987a - 6/16/2018 1:03:42 PM
+1 Boost
Booooooorrrrrriiiinnnnnnggggg!!! BMW created some of the most stunning sports Coupes in history, draw on those. This is a bore!


MBKingMBKing - 6/16/2018 1:23:19 PM
+3 Boost
This new Infiniti looks amazing.


MDarringerMDarringer - 6/16/2018 1:52:42 PM
-1 Boost
I thought it was a Genesis.


dlindlin - 6/16/2018 2:08:17 PM
+3 Boost
Looks like Mustang, sideview


MDarringerMDarringer - 6/16/2018 2:31:10 PM
+1 Boost
Indeed and the Mustang looks much better styled.


dlindlin - 6/16/2018 2:04:38 PM
+3 Boost
Original 8 series is a beauty. Classic BMW coupe profile, with a hint of Ferrari 348. It emits an elegance that suits gentleman, not boys or hooligan. This statement of class, unfortunately, is missing in the design of new generation.


TheSteveTheSteve - 6/16/2018 4:00:16 PM
+1 Boost
Not hideous in the least, and that's good. This might be the best-looking uneventful design ever.


cidflekkencidflekken - 6/16/2018 6:27:52 PM
+2 Boost
If it drives like the M5, then BMW will have a great driving machine. The obvious question will be if folks paying a pretty six-figure price for it will be okay with its uninspired and uninspiring design. I can see faithful BMW owners being okay with the exterior as it follows the brand's trends and themes. However the interior doesn't follow BMW's current approach and in its deviation, is an outright boring and passionless place. Granted, unlike the 5 and 7 Series, it's not just fancier materials over an already-dated design and layout. But it lacks any imagination and creativity to make a rich person feel special in the same way the S-Coupe interior does and, to a lesser degree, the LC500.


runninglogan1runninglogan1 - 6/16/2018 10:12:42 PM
+2 Boost
I'm in the minority here (understatement) but I like it. Certainly looks like a stretched Mustang in profile but that's not a bad thing. Mustang is a great looking car. Front has a lot of presence. Have a feeling this one will be much nicer in the metal. Looks longer but is actually shorter than the 6 series. Of course, looks aren't everything. Promises to be a great driver too.


valhallakeyvalhallakey - 6/17/2018 2:40:53 AM
+3 Boost
I think some of the individual styling elements in isolation look pretty good. However this overall design is way to bulky, the 507, 3.0 Coupes and even the e31 8 series all looked slim and trim (even if they weren’t).


skytopskytop - 6/17/2018 8:49:19 PM
+1 Boost
That new 8 series front grill has "gots to go!" It is hard on the eyes!


senftsenft - 6/18/2018 5:37:56 AM
+2 Boost
Still gorgeous to my eyes. But a qualification: Waiting to see one in the flesh to be sure.


GermanNutGermanNut - 6/18/2018 12:12:43 PM
+3 Boost
BMW missed the mark badly with the new 8-Series. Releasing a more expensive version of a car that already sold poorly (6-Series) during a time when sedan sales are falling rapidly is an extremely poor strategic move by BMW.


GermanNutGermanNut - 6/18/2018 12:14:43 PM
+2 Boost
I meant coupe sales above. The exterior is uninspired and the interior is downright pathetic given the price tag of more than $100K. The S-Class Coupe and Bentley Continental GT will ensure this vehicle is not going to sell well.


stiffystiffy - 6/18/2018 1:04:58 PM
+3 Boost
Exterior works from most angles. The interior is a bit underwhelming.

Overall I wish they looked for more inspiration from the previous gen 8-Series. Wish the interior resembled more of the i8's


MrEEMrEE - 6/18/2018 8:10:03 PM
+3 Boost
BMW 8 miss vs Lexus LC hit.


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