German Automakers Want Even Playing Field - Willing To Drop Tariffs In Both Countries

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Ha ha ha! Of course they do! There's a 10% duty for American cars coming into Europe, but the US has a 25% tariff on light trucks coming into our country. Win, win for Germany. Germans don't want US autos so dropping a 10% tariff is meaningless, but US auto makers will go nuts if their precious light truck market gets any real competition. Trump is an ignoramus surrounded by economic crackpots that don't understand the first thing about trade. Watch out Ford, Chevy your monopoly on trucks could be shattered! Ha ha. Great trolling by Germany.

It is amazing how the Republican party went from the party of the educated to this clown show. I do honestly believe he is trying to do what is best for America. It's just that more often than not he identifies the problem correctly (which is why he was elected) then screws up on execution because he doesn't understand the details. Then proceeds to tell his supporters how great of a job he is doing and they believe him out of patriotism.

He's incapable of doing anything right. He's a self-absorbed, narcissistic ignoramus. Anyone who says "I alone can fix it" regarding the state of world affairs is either a fraud or a fool or both. I will give him one thing, he is a genius luring the incels and neo-nazis out of their basements and into the sunlight.

- Coal is clean.
- Nazis are "Fine People."
- Throwing babies of immigrants in prison / Justifying it with Scripture.
- Alienating old allies.
- Befriending and heaping praise upon dictators, torture states, strongmen, and oligarchs.
- Pleasing Putin / defending him as a dearest friend.
- Dehumanization (immigrants = "Infestation").
- Orwellian "Ministry of Truth": Faux News.

#MAGA: Manipulating Angry Gullible Americans

You, dear reader, get to decide which "truth" you see.

real classy

Trouble is, American cars suck and German cars don't. Germany for the win! We will see how this pans out long run. It is best to hold off judgement for a while with our fickle "president" who loves to praise dictators and exudes fascist tendencies.

Joneshamilton: You don't have your facts straight. The diesel emissions never had anything to do with soot. They all had particulate filters, and their soot emissions were far below what a direct injected gas engine still has. That's why DI gas engines are going to be getting particulate filters as well.

The issue was NOx, not soot. And the 40x was a smaller number of cars, mainly the 2009-11 Golf and Jetta 2.0 TDIs. The Passat, the newest 2.0s, and all of the V6 engines had AdBlue injection, and they were at the most about 10x over the limit. But that 10x (and the 40x) was not a continuous emission, but only peak values. Real world driving they were mostly around 5-6x.

Still sounds like a lot, right? Not when you look at the allowable limit, which is 0.053 parts per million (ppm). Increase that by 10 times, and the decimal point moves one place to the right, making it 0.53. Still a fraction of a unit, and again that was a peak, not average value. It just wasn't that significant in the overall measurement of atmospheric emissions.

Yes, I was a VW TDI owner, and I have sold my cars back to VW. But only because the financial offer was too good to pass up. As much as I enjoy my new Outback, I miss my diesel engine.

@atc98092: Your facts are right on the money, but you're wasting your time bringing facts to a debate with a Daffy. They'll just keep repeating their fact-free opinions, and then accuse you of doing that (denial, deflection, and derision).

Reverse the tariff percentage for the same length of time they favored the EU.

I understand that Trump can go over the top with his tweets at times, but this guy is winning all across the world. I think Americans had been lulled into losing under the prior POTUS, and we are now winning at home booming economic growth and record low unemployment, and winning abroad with fair trade policies and with a "Peace through Strength" approach to foreign policy. It's nice to have a President that puts Americans first rather than goes abroad and apologizes to other countries about America.

AMEN

Winning? What has he won? He went to the G7 and to North Korea and made an absolute fool of himself and got nothing in return. His tariffs are being met with counter-tariffs. No progress on any trade issue. The EU has offered for years to equalize tariffs. They're not worried because American cars won't sell there. If tariffs drop German cars will become cheaper in the US and the truck market will be blown wide open for imported trucks. As far as apologizing, no he doesn't do that. He would never apologize for anything, ever, as if that's a positive trait. But he does run down America--claiming we're no better than the Russians or other thugocracies. He's a mobbed up dictator wannabe with his white nationalism and kiddie concentration camps. I never expected any better from him, but I am surprised by the Cult45 members who celebrate this sh*t show.

@ribdcky Proverbs 18:2
A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.

rlbdicky-I am sure the 3 American hostages that were released would not appreciate you calling them nothing. How many hostages did Obama get North Korea to release....or did he drop them billions of dollars on a secret mission as he did with Iran for nothing in return. Trump has been cleaning up mess after mess that Obama left.

Everyone on this thread wearing a MAGA hat is clueless and needs to actually READ the article. There is no comment or quote from the German Government. Just an automaker stating a preference. And the biggest one keeping silent. Last time I checked it was the governments of the day that made the laws. And right now they are reading retaliatory tariffs in response to Trump's unbelievable global trade war. This won't end well for any party. Nor will it lead to the sale of more US made cars into Germany.

South Korea has already renegotiated trade with US and others are on the verge of doing so. The US has for too long allowed other countries to take advantage including with global groups like the UN or NATO where we pay more than our fair share. Regarding North Korea we were told just 6 months ago by nearly every liberal leaning outlet that Trump was going to start a nuclear war and he could never get Kim Jong Un to talk...prior to that we were told Trump would destroy the economy. All of these major doom and gloom predictions by the left have backfired, and Trump is well on his way to re-election

Typical conservative claptrap. From a quick Google search, it appears 10 Americans were released from NK prisons during Obama's term and that only one remained in prison when he left office. Regarding the Iran money, Obama didn't give them any money. The US government released holds it had on Iranian funds that were held in US banks. It's was Iran's money, not ours. We didn't pay them anything. And in return we got a nuclear agreement that was holding until Trump blew it up. And what now? Has he solved anything? No. He's just blew up sh*t and calls it progress.

First off...the nuclear agreement did absolutely nothing, and Iran has continued to stir trouble in the middle east. Moreover, Iran just admitted to helping Al Quaeda facilitate the 9/11 attacks. Under no circimstances would Trump have given such a nemesis billions in cash. If Obama wanted everyone to know about it, why the secret nightly mission to drop the cash. Why not publicize it during his talks about the deal he was pushing?

Iran has never detonated a nuclear weapon -- unlike Trump's new BFF Kim Jong Un. Plus there was absolutely nothing nefarious about the transfer of money to Iran. It was part of a negotiated agreement and the money paid to them was a return of Iranian funds that had been frozen in US banks. Iran had NOTHING to do with 9/11. 17 or the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia which continues to be as big a nexus of evil in the middle east as Iran has ever been.

Please show me evidence that Obama or his team told Americans we were going to drop a boatload of cash. Maybe he did and I missed it, but I follow the news closely and do not recall that. Speaking of news, do a google search on Iran and 9/11 and you will see many recent articles where a top Iranian official acknowledged Iran facilitating the Al Quaeda terrorists who attacked the US. It made news across the world but the US liberal MSM did not spend much time covering it.

http://beholdisrael.org/news-israel/news/iran-admits-it-assisted-al-qaeda-911-attacks

Iran is purer than the driven snow.

Typical conservative response -- accuse a commenter of saying things that weren't said. I never said Iran is pure. It's a bad actor, but so is Saudi Arabia. The two deserve each other, but we kiss up to Saudis and hate on the Iranians even though they're the same damn thing -- undemocratic, repressive governments. A pox on both their houses.

Typical triggered Alt-Left socialist-fascist response (1) to not understand the use sarcastic absurdity and (2) to attempt to cover tracks. You were building Iran up in your comments above and now you pivot and say the opposite. So which is it, hypocrite?

And speaking of tariffs, the EU put into force their first set of retaliatory tariffs today. Trump, being the idiot he is, placed tariffs on steel and aluminum which are intermediate goods. The EU is targeting mostly finished goods or intermediate goods that can be easily sourced in Europe to minimize disruption and costs to the EU manufacturers and consumers and to maximize pain to US producers in Republican states (motorcycles, bourbon, and other agricultural products). Unlike the EU's targeted tariffs, Trumps broad tariffs on steel and aluminum hurt US manufacturers because fully 30% of that imported metal is exported right back out of the US as finished, value-added products. If Boeing has to pay 10 - 25% more for certain metals, how can they compete with Airbus who doesn't pay inflated prices. Trump is a bull in a china shop and the MAGA crowd mistake his bluster for competence and all those sounds of pottery shattering as progress.

MERKEL CAVES IN: Germany 'to offer to scrap EU tax on cars' in Trump victory
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/977066/donald-trump-news-us-trade-war-eu

Again this is stupid. Of course the EU doesn't mind dropping auto tariffs. German cars will suddenly be 3.5% cheaper in the US and although American cars will be 10% cheaper than previously in Europe (assuming these manufacturers pass along the savings rather than pad their margins), Europeans don't wan't American brands except for a couple of halo cars. If there's going to be a tariff-free market, then the US's 25% tariff on light trucks and vans would have to go too. US automakers and unions would go bonkers. I favor dropping all auto tariffs, but this actually flies in the face of Trump's reason for imposing them in the first place, to protect American workers. He talks protectionism out of one side of this mouth, and unfettered free-trade out of the other. He's incoherent.

Yeah, most American cars are trash nowadays.

Plus, I'd still buy a diesel anyday over any EV crap. I couldn't care less about the emissions and environmental impact, and please don't even pretend like any of you pro-Trump individuals actually care. I've worked with enough salesmen to know what's BS.

The Iran agreement was only about the nuclear program. Both the UN and the US and Israeli intelligence services have said Iran is abiding by the agreement. The rest of what is going on in the middle east is not part of the agreement and was too broad to include. This was a stepping stone and helped moderates get elected in Iran. Additionally, Both China and Russia signaled that they would not continue with sanctions beyond a certain date. The fact that Obama got China and Russia to agree to sanctions was significant.
The alternative that DumbDonald took, is far more risky and it abrogated an agreement with 7 countries. They all have signaled that the US is not a reliable partner on treaties. Chaos may work in real estate fraud the DumbDonald is used too, but not in international relations. The downside is much more impactful.