RAISE and PRAISE: WHICH All-American Car Or Truck Would YOU Get If Trump Heavily Taxed Imports?

Plenty of good choices. Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, CT6, CTS-V, new Navigator, Tesla, Bolt, Jeep, etc.

Still think the idea of tariffs is completely misguided.

He's after Germany paying an appropriate amount for NATO and he's hitting them where he can to make the point.

I'll take the Shelby Mustang GT500.

He is a RE developer and hard negotiating, bluffing is his forte.
In this regard, regular politicians who never held a job or ran a business are like little children to him.
He will get what he wants.

Btw, forgot the cars, a Jeep Trackhawk Hennessey 1000 for daily, Raptor for utility and ZR1 for fun.

I feel so bad for the guy charged with re-designing the Grand Cherokee. The current gen seems to have been around forever...but I still keep cheering for the newest variants.

The fact that it will be built off the mediocre Alfa platform rather than the superior Mercedes platform is making the next GC likely a failure. Then factor in Fiat's yesterthink engines and it's a clusterjam.

Actually FCA is legally a Dutch company, for tax reasons of course! The Italian tax situation is one of the worst around.

Actually, Germany will commit to putting its fair share into NATO.

There is already a 2.5% tariff on EU cars and a 25% tariff on EU pick up trucks coming into the USA. You are already making this choice today.

EU pickup trucks?????

The 25% tariff on vans and trucks has essentially closed off that market to foreign manufacturers. Once that tariff drops, the US pickup and van market will be wide open for competition. The Sprinter vans that you see everywhere are built in Germany and would normally be subject to that tariff. To get around the tariff, Mercedes removes the engine and drivetrain and ships that separately to the US, but other than reinstalling the drivetrain in South Carolina, the vehicle is manufactured in the EU. Once that drops, that will no longer be necessary. They'll save a lot of money just shipping them completely assembled. It would also mean Ford could source the Ranger internationally rather than build it here. Same with the VW Amarok. Dropping tariffs cuts both ways. I'm all for it, but Trump isn't interested in free trade, he just wants to damage Germany.

Matt might be right. But lets see how this plays out before determining that Trump is a genius or a fool.

Harley-Davidson announced today that it is shifting production of its bikes sold in the EU oversees to avoid the EU tariff. They sell 40,000 bikes a year there and it's their second most important market after the US. Not only that, to avoid damage to the EU dealers and their market there, they will absorb the tariff rather than pass it on until they can shift production which could take up to 18 months to do--a big hit to their profitability. This is how your tariff war is going to play out--lots of collateral damage to US workers and companies.

Going back to the original question, F150, CT6, Continental, and the new Navigator but on a short lease bef it breaks apart.

I actually still have a CT6 and for what I actually paid for it (It is 6 Cylinder Non-turbo) - the price was in the 5 series/E class range. However - the CT6 is far larger and more accomodating inside - especially for a person of my size. The car drives ell - Handles well - and required only ONE warranty software update - has not had a single mechanical problem.

For normal use - it has plenty of power - (no it is not a performance vehicle) because of it light weight - and it is a pleasure to drive long distances.

If I could complain - CUE of three years ago was really slow and not all that easy to work through until you got the hang of it - IT IS MUCH better already today.

I would certainly choose this over the Lexus LS and similar offerings and I would recommend this highly.

One of the few areas we agree Tom, I love that car... wish it was called Fleetwood though... I'mm looking at one now and I want Panaray. Does yours have it?

There are plenty of “German” cars you could still buy. X5, X3, X7, GLE, GLS, Q5, C class next gen 3 series.

And plenty you can't. Every Audi and Porsche except Q5 and it's built in Mexico. And don't forget it's not just German cars: Land Rover, Mini, Volvo (excepting some models), Jaguar, Alfa Romeo, Ferrari, Maserati, Lamborghini are affected too. Porsche-Audi dealer quoted in WSJ said the tariff would turn his business into a vacant lot.

Compete on the world stage! That is hilarious. VW is currently the world's largest automaker.

And it is the biggest producer of gross polluters.

What American brand car will I buy?

I won't.

I refuse to buy that trash. By the way, your new Chevy Blazer is being built in Mexico. Pfft. I'll stick with a CPO E-class Bluetec. And no, I don't give a damn about any environmental impact diesel has. I care that it has power and better fuel economy than any hybrid, along with an actual transmission, not some lawnmower CVT.

Get it right before you spout off your political rhetoric.

Neither, will either buy slightly used foreign vehicle of my choice or pay more, either way, won't be buy american with my money.

What car gets 55mpg City that isn't a Honda Civic EH2???

By the way, the E250 Bluetec gets around 45 mpg city and it has actual power, plus an actual transmission. Not a $5,000 battery that will eat it's way to the center of the Earth once it goes bad.

Countries do not "put money into NATO." Years ago Most NATO countries committed to spending 2 percent of their GDP toward NATO related activities. Including logistics, behind the lines support, etc Germany has already met this voluntary committment.
As usual, Trump betrays he is clueless about foreign relations, the economy, the constitution, etc.
SAD.

As usual, Truthy's name is an irony. Either he's a feckless liar for the Alt-Left goons or he is a total idiot. I'm sure TheSteve and his alternate identities will have to give the appearance of resistance. #SoCliched

Truthy should be Turdy because she's full of it. Trump is clueless? Yea and Obama was a community organizer, he had what experience??? Mrs.Clintstone would be Mrs. Who if not for her degenerate husband and what experience or accomplishments does she have except her https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=anyone+who+doesn%27t+accept+the+election&&view=detail&mid=B359A5576A079D8EDAFCB359A5576A079D8EDAFC&rvsmid=031F0E9D722DD1025857031F0E9D722DD1025857&FORM=VDQVAP

How is this a lie Jazzyjazz? Give a statistic, an historical reference. You cannot. Like the Drumpf you love you only have emotional responses because you are not well read or educated.

Same for you MDaranged. You have never presented one shred of evidence or a reference. Just the same "not true!" "trigger!" SAD.

I challenge either one of you tools (not fair, tools are useful) to show me anything the challenges what is true about NATO. The member countries do not pay into NATO. If you do not understand even this simple fact then you are too simple to even debate with. Go put on your MAGA hat.

"And the 2% target doesn't just cover spending on defense to meet NATO commitments. The money can be used to fund other activities such as European peace missions in the Central African Republic and Mali, as well as national missions that are not part of NATO operations, for example the fight against ISIS." ~ Defense News

"Trump obtained his loans in extraordinary fashion. In the mid-2000s, he had burned so many creditors that Deutsche was the only major bank willing to lend to him as no US institution would. First, Trump defaulted on a payment on a $640 million loan for his Chicago hotel and the bank sued him. Eventually, he repaid the bank by getting a loan in 2010 from Deutsche themselves—this time from their wealth management division, rather than the presumably infuriated real estate team." This is how the Russians own Trump.

Russia and to a lesser extend Saudi Arabia are funneling money to Trump through Deutsche Bank. Business loans go through the commercial lending arm, not from wealth management. This is called "money laundering" and why Mueller has experts in money laundering on his team.

Wait... Full stop, Trump is going to take a wrecking ball to the car Industry in the USA at the rate he is going.. no one builds a fully american car just like no European company builds a fully "German" car.. all the BS about Trump aside, a trade war will make many many people in the USA lose jobs... Your politics don't matter when we are in a full blown recession because we think chest thumping is more important than logic. The largest Nail (holding your house together nail) company in the USA is on the verge of going under and moving to Mexico because of the stupid steel tariffs. They can resume buying their steel from Europe and China, make nails in Mexico and import duty free, or stay in the USA and pay so much too much for steel that they go out of business... you think that will be different for Cars... Hell no... and that is just the start of the dominoes falling... trade tariffs will affect everyone reading this website and none of you will see it coming until your job is gone or your cost of living skyrockets... VERY BAD to start taxing everything so Trump can claim a short term win... bad...

Well said, sir. John McCain was spot on when he said Trump's chest thumping to sound tough (to his daughter probably) is not the same as being tough. This from a Navy combat veteran who survived nearly 6 years as a POW enduring frequent torture. All he had to do was sign a confession and they would have freed him.

Trump on the other hand was the real p***y who got deferments due to his aching feet. Poor baby. Sad.

I'm praying for that bastard traitor's death. When McCain dies it will be a cause for celebration. The only sad thing is that he will probably die before he can be arrested and convicted of his most recent treasonous crimes.

You're just a hysterical hater aren't you? I bet you were a big fan boy of McCain when he and Palin were running or did you vote for Obama? LOL.

@ribdcky
(1) That was designed to show how easy it is to provoke the Alt-Left crazies here.
(2) I voted for Obama in 2008.
(3) Watch this video: https://twitter.com/i/status/1011770187228569601

Easy to provoke? You said you were praying for his death and mentioned treasonous crimes he's committed. I find that over the top and a little crazy. Far be it for me to praise McCain, but I think his military service was honorable. His political career has consisted mostly of playing "Maverick" on TV, however I will have to give him kudos for killing Trump's deathcare bill. As for the link: an RNC commerical? Really? It's a bit much for Trump supporters to be all worried about civility considering the cesspool Trump's created. I'm completely immune to RNC propaganda. Don't bother.

McCain treasonous? What an insidious comment. Trump taking orders from Putin seems more treasonous.
As for civility, Trump pushed the civility out of politics. It is an embarrassment to the US to watch him. He did not have the balls to got to Vietnam not the balls to have regular press conferences because he does not have sufficient knowledge of legislation. SAD.

MDaranged, what did McCain do that was treasonous? Do you understand the definition of treason? I can provide it to you if needed and help you with the big words.
I do not pray for anybody's death. I do pray for Drumpf's impeachment, daily.

"The Constitution narrowly defines treason and establishes a high bar for conviction. “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort,” Article Three states. “No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.”
Sounds like Trump helping Russia rig our election is more treasonous than McCain disagreeing with this horrible president.

Truly deranged... Perhaps Trump should use an illegal email server, possibly put it in his bathroom and let the entire world hack our secrets? Sounds like what you just described..... crickets huh? He probably should destroy evidence too... Perhaps he should set up an illegal gun running operation and give automatic weapons to drug dealers and terrorists? Maybe he should strike a deal with the #1 terroist nation on the planet and give them $150B and a couple hundred million in cash, flown out in the middle of the night... shhhh don't tell anyone... crickets... you know if President Trump did anything remotely like this he'd be exactlyl where THEY belonged, why the crickets from all the patheitic Lib-jerks?

First of all, belushi, it was $40 billion and it was Iranian investments in the US dating back to the 1980 hostage crisis. Under international law, the deal struck meant repatriating this money. It should be noted the Obama refused to pay interest. It was cash flown out as there are still mo banking transactions allowed with Iran and the west. So, your talking points from Fox news [sic] are all refuted. The gun program to Mexico was actually started under Bush.
What illegal email server are you referring to? Every secretary of state has also used a private server. No secrets lost and no criminal activity found. Strike two.
Your name calling probably works in the trailer park you live in with your sister, but not in civil discourse. Email me after the impeachment. I'll be waiting.

Why would I stop buying imports just because they're more expensive?

Silly question.