Trump Administration To Strip California's Authority To Regulate Automobile Greenhouse Gas Emissions

I can hear the heads exploding on the west coast!

Loser in Chief

dinosaur in chief, this isn't about regulation, this is about grasping that the planet continues to be destroyed and no one gives a shit

llaroo,

Indeed, I don't give a sh*t about the planet. Frankly I hope that before I keel over there is a zombie apocalypse and an alien invasion - on the same day.

Meantime, I love to see CA getting hammered by the feds, and I live in CA.

Amen, amen, amen! Something has to be done to stop the American Communist Party in Sacramento. No state should have the right to dictate emission standards different than the rest of the nation.

So basically there should be no state laws. May be you should decide what you want. When it comes to healthcare, every state decides what they want to implement but when it comes to car regulation only federal government can decide. I think we have a specific name for these kind of people.

That is an utterly illogical interpretation of what I said. Either you're stupid or you're trying rather unsuccessfully to bully me by accusing me of saying something I didn't say. Federal laws should be the standard and not rogue states. Your reasoning is based on feelings and emotion rather than logic or common sense.

Federal laws should be the baseline with states free to implement stricter laws if they so choose. That is kind of the point of having the United States of America as opposed to the country of America.

@SanJoseDriver "...with states free to implement stricter laws if they so choose...." So you expect automakers to make 50 state specific variants? Because that is the logical interpretation.

Clearly you have no common sense.

typical hypocrite republican... states rights when it's convenient for the white straight males... i've always felt pity for people like you, so lost in the world. better stay in the south

If that's what each state wants, yes. Cars already have to be localized to hundreds of countries around the world. However, many states that want stricter rules are just doing a copy/paste of what California requires. That is the point of having states, giving freedom to let local government decide what is in the best interest of each state. If California wants to reduce pollution and pay for it using higher taxes, that should be their choice. If a state wants to ban weed and throw billions of dollars in taxes away, it's their choice. If there is one thing we should be trying to protect in the US, it should be freedom--our government is already way too big. The last thing we need is different levels of government micromanaging one another.

Good news. Cali is a nanny state. You can't even put on an aftermarket exhaust.

donnie dotard at it again. States have rights and can govern their state the way they choose.

And its up to the feds to reel them in when they (the States) get too crazy.

Amen LexSucks

Given that you think it's OK to call President Trump "Donny Dotard", I assume you'd have no problem if someone called Obama "Barry N-baby"? Because if you wouldn't call Obama disparaging, hateful names then you're a hypocrite. I'm assuming you're a hypocrite.

@trollinger

I would never call you a pos racist because your tiny alt-right brain would explode and then we would all be subjected to one of your tired and boring tirades parroted from your masters at Breitbart and InfoWars.

Keep living in your fantasy. The Republicans are squarely behind Trump. The members of the Republican Party who aren't (Paul Ryan, John Kasich,...) are torching their careers. The swamp hasn't caught on that the grass roots people are sick to death of fascist-socialist-communism of the American Communist Party, you know the Alt-Lefters that have raped the Democrat Party.

It was a very busy day for Trump. Tweeting at Iran, threating to take way clearance from former intelligence staffers who criticize him and now attacking state-level clean air rules imposed in 1975 and reaffirmed in 2009 in California.

If US states can make it very difficult to get an abortion, even though it is legal in the USA, or now say lakes full of coal plant tailings don't have to be monitored, California can very likely make and keep laws to have its air a bit cleaner. Good luck with this lawsuit.

I know if I was the US President, I would spend my time a bit differently.....
I'd spend whatever was needed to make the water in Flint Michigan safe to drink. I'd then get rid of Citizens United, taking all the money out of politics, next I would cut a NAFTA deal that was fair to all 3 parties, visit a local school reminding the kids to eat their vege's and study hard, go for a hop in an F18 off a carrier and make marijuana legal and tax it big time.

Afer lunch is over, I would likely order the bombing all the Russian bases in Syria giving them 24hrs to get lost and give them 48hrs to get out of Crimea. Bashar al-Assad would also be on the next plane to the Hague World Court to be tried for war crimes. Moving on I would likely also order the bombing of the militarized islands in the South China Sea warning China not to rebuild them ever again.

Lot's can be done when you don't spend your day tweeting...and carry a big stick :)

The raised middle finger to Iran strengthens the voting base to vote Republican.

Giving the fist to California does likewise, but in the case of California, there are people getting sick of the American Communist Party and are ready to #WalkAway.

Trump knows exactly what he is doing.

So you quoted the victory song used by one of the most corrupt American Presidents to make your point?

I much prefer:

When you were young and your heart was an open book
You used to say live and let live
(You know you did, you know you did, you know you did)
But if this ever changing world in which we're living
Makes you give in and cry
Say live and let die
What does it matter to you?
When you got a job to do
You got to do it well
You got to give the other fellow hell

@MD What he is doing by his own words and actions is throwing away the GOP majority. Dem's are 7 points ahead and up from 3 points 6 months ago in national polling. Trump's actions and comments lately alienate voters and people in his own cabinet and party. 2018 Has seen Trump unleashed and there is nobody to stop him. If the House and the Senate are lost and he loses in 2020, it will be by his own hand, not as a result of any probe or special counsel. He got elected as Trump and he will walk out as Trump. Nothing will change him.

Next election I'm writing in "CanadianComments" for President.

Well Obama wasn't a citizen, so I guess there is a precedent.

— carloslassiter

Ted Cruze isn't going to run again ;-)

At least Obama paid taxes...

@carloslassiter Thanks for the support! There is still more to do as well. Are you up for a cabinet position?

-Protect a woman's right to choose in all 50 states
-Sign onto the TPP and do a free trade deal with the EU
-Invite Jerry Seinfeld to the White House so I can be on CinC getting coffee
-Disinvite Putin from coming to the White House
-Definitely go to the next Correspondents Dinner and do my best to be funny
-Make sure my dog Sailor has his own spot on the White House website
-Tell the G7 and G20 nations I've hit the reset button and um ah, sorry
-Go meet the new Mexican leader and tell Mexican's they are great!
-Go to Canada and meet Trudeau and do it in the winter to skate the canal
-Adopt GM0 labeling so it is clear on all products
-Tell the NFL players it's ok to kneel but play to win
-Pardon a turkey at Thanksgiving
-Have comic books in my Presidental Library
-Do walkabouts on the Washington Mall and freak people just shaking their hand
-Win a 2nd term by a mile
-Leave the White House and American better than when I took office

The arrogance of @CC--a non-citizen--is off the charts.

@SanJoseDriver Trump paid his taxes too.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-tax-returns-show-he-did-not-avoid-taxes-20170314-story.html

@MD -It's not arrogance, it's optimism! The Can-do Canadian President!


If you wake up and don't want to smile
If it take just a little while
Open your eyes and look at the day
You'll see things in a different way
Don't stop thinking about tomorrow
Don't stop, it'll soon be here
It'll be, better than before
Yesterday's gone, yesterday's gone
Why not think about times to come
And not about the things that you've done
If your life was bad to you
Just think what tomorrow will do
Don't stop thinking about tomorrow
Don't stop, it'll soon be here
It'll be, better than before,
Yesterday's gone, yesterday's gone
All I want is to see you smile
If it takes just a little while
I know you don't believe that it's true
I never meant any harm to you
Don't stop thinking about tomorrow
Don't stop, it'll soon be here
It'll be, better than before,
Yesterday's gone, yesterday's gone
Don't stop thinking about tomorrow
Don't stop, it'll soon be here
It'll be, better than before
Yesterday's gone, yesterday's gone
don't you look back
(Ooh) don't you look back
(Ooh) don't you look back
(Ooh) don't you look back

That's good if true. He still seems to be hiding something or else he would have released his returns by now. The routine audit is not taking routine time.

CandadianClown - "dont stop thinking about tomorrow" is a song that was used by the Bill Clintstone campaign and inaugural ball to celebrate the slithering into office of the degenerate Clintstones. Even then they were plotting for the rise of Bills wife, Mrs. Clintstone... its a hideous corruption of a decent song, forever stained and distained... thanks for the reminder.

the day that dotard is impeached will be a world holiday.

The American Communist Party has given up on that because they know it would be political suicide for them. They are also coming to realize that the fake outrage is also backfiring on them massively.

#WalkAway

Trump Cult members on AutoSpies talk about their love for "less government"... unless of course more government and strong-arm government militism gets them what they want :-/

I believe there are too many Americans who aren't the kind of folks who resonate with Nazi marchers, or or the confiscation of children of "undesirables" entering the country legally. These are the folks who care about cleaner air, better fuel economy, more stringent anti-pollution laws, etc. In other words: they value decency, common sense, intelligence; that sort of thing.

California won't just roll over and obey Putin's Poodle, and the wishes of his complicit Party.


Thought for the day...

"Daffy Logic":
- Critical of American "communists"
- Fine with #45 being Putin's Poodle; Not bright enough to know Russia is Communist.

correction, "Russia is a dictatorship"

Correction: Russia is a safe space.

lots of deplorables in this forum, so sad they can't pull their heads out of their asses

The US constitution give TO THE STATES the right to implement laws on items not specifically mentioned in the Constitution. Boris Trump CANNOT prevent California from enacting laws SUPERIOR to the US listed standard - as long as the they meet the standard set.

It is a basic CONSERVATIVE philosophy to restrict the power of the Federal Government -leaving the STATES the right to control what happens INSIDE their borders - allowing the Feds to set minimum standards. The very people who Boris Trump has nominated to the Supreme Court have long records of siding with the states on these issues - as do virtually ALL the current SUpreme court Justices - not only the Conservatives but also the less so. If it were to go before the SUpreme court today - it might be a complete Unanimous loss for the President.

Two options 1) do nothing and let California with it unique climatic conditions continue to have its own emissions standards. Or 2) revoke Californispas ability to manage their unique situation. The choice for Trump is easy. Which one will divide the nation the most? Will the right get hugely upset at choice number 1? From what we have seen in the past the answer is no. Will number 2 cause more tension and make a large group of people upset? Then according to the intent of Russia to tear down the USA option 2is Trumps logical choice.

What has to happen is that Trump must turn California into a negative example. I predict that assuming the American Communist Party has ruined its chances of a sweep in November--and the polls are suggesting they have--then the day after the election the crosshairs will be on California and USS Trump will pummel the living hell out of it...and win.

Could be, we will see. He has blocked all those extra voters from coming across the border, even temporarily just to vote you know. Maybe the Canadian border is more porous and we could get some help from our arch enemies to the north :)

The ballot initiative was bought and paid for by a venture capitalist. Sure, he was able to buy all the signatures, but the reality is that Californians don't want the state split. BUT even if the state split into 3, the federal government is NOT obligated to recognize the new states. When people realized that California would not automatically get triple the representation in Washington DC a lot of the steam died down.

William F. Buckley: “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”

"America’s child president had a play date with a KGB alumnus, who surely enjoyed providing day care. It was a useful, because illuminating, event: Now we shall see how many Republicans retain a capacity for embarrassment. Trump is a sad, embarrassing wreck of a man." ~ George Will
MD, you say DD knows what he is doing by firing up the base and threatening Iran, but it is reckless and dangerous. The man is incapable of complex thought.
I expect the midterms to be a complete route of the spineless republicans that cannot reel in this tool.

The Iran deal was more impotent than Carter's response. Carter and Obama compete for being by far the worst presidents of all time and we have to remember Nixon when we say that.

Obama did not bow to Iran - as you have nothing to back this up. He was able to get Russia and China to stick to sanctions long enough to get the 6 +1 agreement that was working. Two former Israeli Mossad leaders were in favor of the agreement. Trump's reasoning was uninformed.
Trump's favor-ability rating is increasing among the far right wing of the republican party. he is also energizing the democratic base in a way Hillary never could.
He forgets that he is president of all Americans, not just his small base.

Obama did not bow to Iran - as you have nothing to back this up. He was able to get Russia and China to stick to sanctions long enough to get the 6 +1 agreement that was working. Two former Israeli Mossad leaders were in favor of the agreement. Trump's reasoning was uninformed.
Trump's favor-ability rating is increasing among the far right wing of the republican party. he is also energizing the democratic base in a way Hillary never could.
He forgets that he is president of all Americans, not just his small base.

Actually the American Communist Party, the former Democrats, are losing ground with African-American and Latino voters and polling shows that.

When a President actually does something for African-American and Latino voters as opposed to calling them victims and keeping them down on the farm, those folks begin to wonder why they didn't clue in sooner.

I predict Mueller's report will come out in October - then a democratic control of congress, removal of illegal tariffs, and removal of DumbDonnie from office.
The real reason he does not release his taxes (another broken promise, like his wedding vows, payments to contractors and on and on) is he is not a billionaire.

The reason Mueller's report is taking so long to come out is that the American Communist Party's fabrications keep falling apart. Mueller has broken the law numerous times in his official capacity and deserves to be executed.

What law has Mueller broken? Be specific? Trump and. broken many laws and precedents. The death penalty is very serious. Why he would have had to commit treason, like Trump did when he kissed Putin's ass in Helsinki.
Mueller is taking so long because unlike your golden haired hero, he is deliberate and fact driven. Three guilty pleas, Cohen and others flipping, probably Manafort soon too. The circle is tightening around Trump and he is acting increasingly irrational.

Jazzyjazz, there is no evidence any dirt has been dug up on Hillary. granting immunity for prosecution witnesses is typically bad for the defendent(s).
DumbDonnie is impulsive, not a disciplined thinker. I doubt he graduated from Penn. he only says he attended. His daddy made a big contribution.
MD, what fabrications are you referring to? Three Trump associates have pleaded guilty. One is going on trial next week. Others to follow in a lead up to the big one. There are staunch conservatives that have written in the past week that Trump's kiss ass demeanor around Putin can only be explained by compromising information.

Even Fox News says DD's trade war is economic suicide.http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/24/trumps-trade-war-is-economic-suicide.amp.html

It is easy arguing with Trump supporters have no facts to back them up, just rhetoric. It should become obvious to some of you at some point, that he is a con man with nothing to show. Do not mention the stock market. It was on an upward swing for 6 years. The DOW is not the key measure of economic performance. North Korea has done nothing and is reaping the rewards of no military exercises. Our allies are moving toward economic ties with China, weakening our future. His tariffs have produces nothing except lost US jobs. Sad.

Mueller served in Vietnam in combat, even though he did not have to go. he volunteered. Trump had a "bone spur." Wimp.

McCain served in Viet Nam and was a treasonous traitor that got people killed. I suspect Mueller is the same type of scumbag.

On a much lighter note (a silly one at that)...
So Truthy, if there were a draft right now and you were of draft age, would you go or would you burn your draft card, do LSD, and indiscriminately make babies with women with BO and hairy arm pits?

Agreed Truthy. I have a lot of respect for people that did not have to go, they were affluent, had many ways of getting out of it like Dan Quayle, W, Cheny, Trump and others did. However they went and faced death. I don't think a lot of people today really understand how deadly that war was but we lost almost 60,000 people over there. I also admire the speak softly but carry a big stick TR type politician as opposed to a blow hard who make the USA look weak and foolish.

@CC Can we agree on:

I wanna die just like Jesus Christ
I wanna die on a bed of spikes
I wanna die come see paradise
I wanna die just like Jesus Christ
I wanna die just like JFK
I wanna die on a sunny day
I wanna die just like JFK
I wanna die in the USA
I wanna die
I wouldn't sell my soul but I'd hang for this
I gotta get my goal cause I'll hang for this
I wanna die
I wanna die on a bed of spikes
I wanna die just like Jesus Christ
I wanna die

MDaranged, I suspect you are already taking drugs if you think McCain was treasonous. He was offered a way out of the Hanoi POW camp as his father was secretary of the navy at the time. He chose to stay and not abandon his brothers in arms. Read about how he led these men and kept up their moral during this time. Trump abandons his wives faster than this.
"I think Mueller was the same kind of scumbag." You have no proof, but like all DD supporters facts only confuse your world view.
Both men served their country and sacrificed when they did not need to. Disparaging those who sacrifice for the better good makes you the scumbag.
Veterans deserve better than this.
Draft Dodger Donnie is a coward. This is why he looked so wimpy next to Putin. Well that and his probably still hurt.
Which brings me to you second question. Those "women" you are bangin' with hairy armpits and BO are not women. Might want to have a blood test dude.

OK Mr. Proof...let's get this clear.

You put out an OPINION and act like it is FACT and then attempt to bully someone for stating an opinion and supposedly not having facts. You're a hypocrite because you don't do what you arrogantly demand of others.

Moreover, you post is so rambling that is borders on incoherence. Try writing from a place of centeredness that then unhinged rage that you entertain but do not understand the source of.

You rely HEAVILY on emotional hysterics rather than cold, calm reasoning and anyone who has ever debated will tell you than when a person goes to emotional appeals, they have conceded logic and ethics.

Your response is riddled with hate language, but you demand to be taken seriously.

Try JUST ONCE try to respond without resorting to ad hominem attacks. Try to respond without puking inflammatory hate speech about Trump because then you'd have a shot at being taken seriously.

I have no desire for anyone here to take me seriously.

You say: "Trump abandons his wives faster than this." is a piece of "evidence" you attempt to prove that McCain is a virtuous hero, but there is no logical connection.

Nowhere did I disparage "those who sacrifice" but I unapologetically disparaged a traitor. If you survey Vietnam veterans, overwhelmingly they see McCain as a traitor. It is well documented that McCain gave the North Vietnamese all sorts of intel that got people killed. Google it.

How do the hate phrases against the President you use such as "DD" and "Draft Dodger Donnie" make your assertion more credible? They don't.

As for your "BO" comment, you clearly are so angry and hateful that you cannot allow yourself to lighten up when someone presents you with an opportunity to lighten up.

I perceive that you may be intelligent, but the histrionics of what you do is off the charts and blunts the true perception of who you are as a person.

I purposefully offer a distorted version of myself and have been incredibly up front with that.

I'm also tremendously forthcoming when asked direct questions about my life.

Peace and may the blessings of Lord Jesus our God and Savior keep you safe.

PS I love typos.

If you're ever in town come by for martinis on the veranda.

Amen, and come Lord Jesus!

@xjug1987a You can come for martinis too if you like. Sit back, relax, watch the river at the end of the property, do tri tip, and talk about cars.

Ever have a tri tip martini?

Love to Matt, make mine a “Fairmont Old Fashion”...

What’s a tri tip martini?

@CarCrazedinCali You need to look up the word bigot because you know nothing of its meaning.

MD, only if they are dirty martinis, the best. Googling something is not really research though. As with much much of our news, it is not all vetted.
You infer Mueller is of poor character because you believe McCain is. The only similarity is they both have either opposed, or in Mueller's case, pose a threat to DD. Every source I have read indicates Mueller is above the fray. We do not even know what the result of the report is, only that three people have pleaded guilty when faced with the evidence against them.
Any respect I may have had for DD given the office, evaporated during his presser with his boss Putin. And then he invites Putin - the dictator who interfered in our election - to the White House without informing his SoD or DNS. Very half-assed.

#1 The tri-tip martini is a version of a dirty martini

#2 Still you continue with the use of disrespectful terminology "DD" "half-assed"

#3 Implying that you ever had any respect for President Trump is disingenuous on your part and you know it.

#4 My reference to Google is that you scream "proof" when it is readily available and no one should have to do your work for you.

#5 Lighten the hell up and pretend to be a real human being, Jesus.

@Truthy My brother Kyle and his husband are coming over for tri tip tonight. The tri-tip martini has small cubes of cooked tri tip on the mandatory cocktail swords with just a smidge of juice.

The martini glasses are frosted with sharks on them.

I cannot stand dirty martinis with olive juice and when Kyle came up with it as a signature drink when he tended bar while working on is master's I was revolted. He dared me to try it and it was sensational.

It sounds awful to have meat in a martini, but I will have one in your honor (genuinely), but then it will be back to razor blade martinis--another of Kyle's innovations--after that.

@xjug1987a when shall we expect you?

above is the perfect example of a bigot, you fall so easily

@Xjug1987a A tri-tip martini is a variation on dirty martini that my brother Kyle came up with. It's a vodka martini that is dirtied up by juices from cooked tri tip. He then puts a few small cubes of it on a skewer. Quite lovely.

@CarCrazedinCali You need to look up the word bigot because you know nothing of its meaning.