Could The Model 3 Performance EVER Become A BMW M3 Or C63 Rival?

Of course it will be. There is a lot of room for even better performance as well (triple motor config, solid state batteries, etc.)

Here is what I appreciate about Tesla, cars like the Model S P100 and Performance 3 are kind of shining a light back on traditional enthusiasts rides like ///AMG and M for the overall experience. While yes the performance 3 puts up stellar numbers, it kind of lacks the story telling to get to the numbers so it’s less memorable.

From the moment you fire up an ///AMG and it greets you with a shake/rumble, the experience is already beginning before you even pull off.

Then you get it on the highway or stretch of road and the, snap crackle pop and grunting bond you with this beast setting a bar for an experience unlike any other regardless of numbers...

With my own 30 minute of test drive, I'd say the Model 3 Performance is everything it's billed to be. I was nursing a bad back at the time and didn't go all out on the acceleration test (it was on a relatively crowded highway with 5 lanes at some stretches), but it was far quicker with very responsive handling and smoother than any BMW M3 I've ever driven (a good friend has an E93 M3 Manual and I spend quite some time on it). If I drove a BMW M3 with that bad back, I wouldn't last more than 5 minutes.

My only gripe with the Model 3 Performance: it's takes too damn long to get the car - I configured 2 months ago, and still waiting. Last check: late September delivery.

So the Model 3 is a snooze fest. I don't care about the performance really as a car like that is a just a beater, but I do care about going on long trips to the coast with my dogs in the back and being able to fill up or completely charge in 15 minutes or less.

From reading the article - the answer is yes.

Oh and I forgot, this thing is hideous on the street. At least the other models look good, even the S after all this time.

Waiting for the "Ring time" on the 3, if it can make it around the Nurburgring.

Absolutely NOT -

Tesla is not a Top Tier premium manufacturer - and the Model 3 is NOT a competitor to those real premium offerings. THe interior of the Model 3 is a joke - and if GM put together that interior for their Cruze- it would be laughed out of the market. The Model 3 was developed as a mass market vehicle - not a premium offering.

Tesla might be able to compete with Genesis and Acura - with their other offering - but they are getting long in the tooth as well.

+1

No such thing as premium tiers.

It is nauseating to look at, so, for me, no way. Before buying my Panamara Turbo, I really thought I'd buy a Model S. With a sticker of $165,000.00, all I could see was blazing fast 0-60 times-almost like riding a roller coaster. After that trick wore off, what was left was a terrible interior and an ugly car. I didn't realize how awkward and ill-thought out Tesla was until I sat in the back seat. To say that the Chrysler 300 was light years ahead on comfort is an understatement. SO, no, BMW and Mercedes are safe. Middle of the road cars beware.

Can it beat a Honda Civic around the 'Ring? Asking for a friend.

@carloslassiter - Hard to know. The Panamera Turbo did a 7:38 around the ring sitting at 1995kg and 550hp. It is a very fast brick of a sedan. The Civic Type R did a 7:43 coming in at 1320kg with 306hp. The Model 3 is a very, very, very heavy little car at 1800kg with 450hp. If it can make it around the ring at full boil equipped with the track option, it should come in somewhere close to these two times. Doing the math, the power/weight ratio of the Tesla is right in between the Porsche and the Honda. Maybe the Ring time will be too.

Not to over-emphasize the relevance of the traditional print auto-journalist publications (Car and Driver, Motor Trend, Road & Track, Autoweek) but note that Tesla has ALWAYS refused to provide them test vehicles for use in comparison tests.

Car and Driver noted this in a letter to the editor when a Tesla fan boy noted that the P100D Model S would have smoked the M5, AMG E63S, and CTS-V in a recent comparison test. The Fan Boy insisted that the Model S would have won and CD politely replied "..we asked Tesla for a P100D Model S but they refused, as they always do when asked for a test vehicle.."

So fanboys should probably not insist that the Tesla's are better than traditional competitors until it can be independently verified by a mainstream and vetted testing publication.

Only if you are a soyboy.

Or bought into the feminist idiocy of toxic masculinity.