Trump Tells EU That Eliminating Traiffs Is Not Enough

What does he mean about their consumer habits? They agree to zero tariffs and he says this is not enough? WTF?
How is his uninformed trade war working out? Oh, the trade deficit jumps to its highest level in 3 years and consumer costs are rising. Let's go ahead with that 25th amendment.

yup, there's that free sprirated Republican who believes in open markets and free economies forcing people to buy a specific product. Kind of like Soviets and their Ladas and East Germans and their Trebants. Maybe Europeans don't want to drive SUV's since thats all that is made here and Europeans don't need to drive big ass vehicles. The joke is up folks, take this man out, America is now the laughing stock of the planet - bring it on.

hahahaha, Trumps wants to know if European Imports 'imperil national security ' to justify his lunacy. Only one thing that Imperil's national security, yes Him.

I made the call on this the last time car tariffs going to zero was in a post. This White House won't be satisfied until the EU agrees to an import quota for US vehicles. It is that strange these days in "Crazy Town". I feel so sorry for Americans this week. The 25th Amendment is there for a reason. It is time for Congress to act.

When you have them by their cajones their hearts and minds will follow! We can probably count the number of US models sold in EU on one hand and the total sold on our fingers and toes. The man knows exactly who has the leverage and how to use it. Let the haters hate but the results speak for themselves!

@pugproud- You are too smart not to see this 2-3 steps ahead. If tariffs are agreed to go to zero then what? What do you expect from EU and Asian consumers? To buy cars they can't afford or don't like? Once trade between nations is open and free, it is the market that decides which products succeed or fail. There is no rational ask you can make after tariffs are removed.

still waiting for those results

https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fil:2016_Presidential_Election_by_County.svg the results ARE in....

Why is there always a dufus looking photo of Trump on these threads?

PUGPROUD, how is that leverage with North Korea? What exactly is he holding out for?
The reason you do not see Suburbans, Impalas and Explorers in Europe is they buy smaller cars due to more expensive fuel. Oh, and Ford and GM have been building cars in Europe for the European market since before WW2. GM recently sold Opel and Vauxall to PSA.
DD does not understand this. His approach will yield nothing.

and Trump wants to relax emission standards when the rest of the world is going in opposite direction. How would US cars even fair oversees ? Wake up people, stop drinking the Koolaid.

You mean all the globalist, socialists and communists... perhaps you should move to those utopias since they’re so much better than America?

They need to go to Canada.

And the haters continue to hate! More movement toward a possible North Korean solution has been made in the past 6 months then in the past 60 years. Give the man a chance to see what he can do. And the haters continue to hate!

PUGPRoud, you sound like other Trump supporters when you refer to those with reasonable concerns and experience question DD's methods as they have never worked outside of the small family business he owns - and even that is not certain.
There is no real measurable progress on Korea. They are playing the same game they have always played for 6 US presidents. The man has had 18 months and has mainly alienated our allies, bent over for Putin, supported neo-nazis, asked the US AG to investigate his opponents and not to investigate allies. If he went to civics class he would have learned that the AG is not his lawyer.
And do not mention the economy as it was growing for 7 straight years before he took office and the statistical trends have not changed. he has managed to add 1.5 trillion to the deficit, so he has that. Sad.

Bringing Europe to their knees economically is (1) easy to do and (2) in our best interests.

Bring Europe to their knees - such stupid arrogance. You really are a complete idiot.

No. Just proving how utterly simple it is to trigger gullible idiots like you. I cast the bait and you bit like a big hungry fish.

Thruthy we see the world thru different lenses for sure and now you know how the rest of us felt the past eight years of the previous administration. To quote your man, "Elections have consequences and we won!" Live with it.

Gotta love Barry Soetoros arrogance in trying to take credit for Trumps economy. My comment to the community organizer who never did a thing in his life until he somehow got elected is, “hey Barry, you didn’t build that...!”

@xjug1987a now the Alt-Left SJWs will attack you because they cannot resist the bait. #LackOfIntelligence

Obama kinda monkeyed things up didn't he.

lets see, did Obama undermine his AG ? no, did he undermine the FBI or CIA ? no ?, did he undermine his relationships with all American allies ? no, do he cozy up to Putin and defend the actions of tyrants ? no. Did he lie 24/7 ? . Right, you won, and your prize is a feckless leader.

No. Obama just colluded with his AG to give the drug cartels weapons.

Did Obama trade 5 terrorists for a deserter? Did Obama say If you like your doctor and health insurance plan you can keep them? Did Obama say 2% annual GNP growth is the new norm? Did Obama's administration lie about Benghazi ? Did Obama's administration give guns to Mexican criminals and loose track of them? Did Obama break his promise to close Guantanamo Bay? Did Obama draw a line in the sand then do nothing when it was crossed? Did he promise during his first campaign to lower the national debt? A record to be proud of for sure (sic)!

Everyone seems to forget about Obama and Dems “never letting a good crisis go to waste” forcing through an $800 Billion (almost 1/3 of US GDP) stimulus package on “Shovel Ready Jobs”. Then laughing about it later saying those jobs weren’t so shovel ready when their grand plan failed saying that the 800 Billion stimulus wasn’t enough.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4p4-vPrcDBo Notice who is sitting next to Obama says it all.

PugProud, Obama inherited the worst economy since the Great Depression. He turned it around and started the longest economic recovery in our history - 9 years and counting and es, he hit over 4.0 percent growth in 4 quarters despite the mess he inherited from his republican predecessor.
Trump inherited a growth economy and acts as though he created it. Yes elections have consequences and in this case they are horrible. The WH is in chaos and Dictator Donny is asking the DOJ not to investigate republicans even if they are breaking the law, but to go after his opponents. Third world stuff.
MD, what is the point of "bringing Europe to its knees" other than pleasing Putin.
The Western Alliance and NATO have grown the world economy and wealth over the last 70 years, stood as a bulwark against Soviet expansion and led as an example for the developing world.
Only the powerless who do not appreciate how to wield it think bringing allies to their knees while in turn kissing Putin's ass approve of this thuggish behavior. The negative consequences of this idiots term will last for ears.
Leaders and especially presidents are at their best when they lead the whole country, not just the minority who voted for him.

And then Obama doubled the all-time debt of every president before him in just three years. Obama came in with a $7.4 trillion debt and doubled it in three years. He left office with a $19.57 trillion debt. That makes him a fiscal idiot.

<Obama inherited the worst economy since the Great Depression.> Absolute BS that the Dems keep repeating and no one ever calls them out on it.

By the time Obama took office the economy was in recovery. TARP passed under Bush had stopped the bleeding caused by the change in accounting practices (mark to market) for the subprime mortgages which can be traced to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pushed by their congressional benefactors Barney Frank and Chris Dodd.

The economic crash after 9/11 was much worse with more uncertainty, the economy that Reagan inherited with double digit inflation and 20% interest rates was much more precarious. Obama used the perceived crisis for a Keynesian money grab for bailouts for his donors. The banking situation could have been handled by the Resolution Trust Corporation which was still in place from the S&L meltdown.

The meager Economic growth under Obama was fueled by massive government spending, near Zero interest rates and rounds Quantitative Easing (Government buying its own debt). A vicious cycle that has never ended well. (See Weimar Republic).

What unites the two presidents is the same do-nothing GOP Congress and Senate that in 2 years has only passed 1 piece of legislation. Funny enough the old deficit hawk GOP membership would NEVER have touched the tax cut financed by debt. Spending would have been cut in an equal amount or it would not have been passed. Improving NAFTA at the margins will be nice, but any president with only one win in 2 years in office needs some major legislative wins between now and 2020 to have a real record to run on.

You Trumpeteers are so wrong on the economy. Obama inherited the worst recession in 70 years. When you have a dumb republican (George W) who cut $2.2 trillion for the top 1 percent AND then hit with a recession revenue drops causing larger deficits. The first trillion dollar deficit was the last fiscal year of Bush. In reality, the economy was not in recovery when Obama took over as the TARP funds had not been distributed yet. Any economist will tell you that it was Obama's team that saved the economy. He did cut the annual deficit by more than half during his presidency and actually had the slowest growth in spending (save for TARP) of any administration since WW2. You all are just making stuff up.
And no, the 2001 recession was not worse by economic statistics.
You all have to stop watching Fox, 80 percent of what is on their is false.

And Reagan had the largest peace time deficit ever in constant dollars - that makes him a fiscal idiot. A mediocre actor that did nothing and some how got elected president.

No one ever said Reagan was a great actor, but he was a pretty good 2 term Governor of California. In fact every President, Republican and Democrat has had a background of accomplishments and qualifications before becoming president except Obama.

Obama monkeyed things up.

I repeat Thruthy "There are none so blind as those who will not see!" Open your eyes man!

@pugproud The irony is that Truthy thinks his eyes are open but he's been inculcated into the "my truth" brigade where mere opinion has been renamed incontrovertible truth because he thinks it. He keeps calling for proof, but the reality is that he doesn't want proof. He wants to be right. Even when you give him proof, he brushes it aside if in his opinion, oops his "my truth", he disagrees with it.

The current recovery did not start until after June 2009. Obama was sworn in in January 2000,, The Obama administration tasked the Federal Reserve to engage in three rounds of quantitative easing, while the federal funds rate was kept near zero. Obama saved the economy, not Bush.
You guys are exactly the kind of voters DD targets, those who have no facts and just shout slogans. "I love the uneducated" - Donald Trump 2015

MD, you have offered no proof of any kind to back up your stupid points. Not once. I am not sure you even have your GED.
The fact above about the recovery staring in the summer of 2009 is backed by several sources. Another fact, DD lies 79 percent of the time according to two (2) fact checking websites. Fact - he was a draft dodger. Fact - He declared bankruptcy twice and only Russian money saved his company. He is a ffraud who will soon be out of office.
Quote a FACT or quit posting asshat.

Here you go with your "proof" rant YET AGAIN.

Facts:

YOU are not interested in facts, only your own opinion and being right.

YOU are incapable of listening because all you do is shout and spew.

If YOU ask a question, you never wait for an answer because you jump immediately to providing the answer you want to hear aka your opinion.

If anyone gave YOU facts, YOU would dismiss them, become unhinged and spew.

When someone challenges YOU, YOU immediately start calling them names.

YOU are disrespectful 100% of the time.

The problem: YOU.

Where are your facts? Where are they?!? I have given you ample opportunity. The problem is you do not understand the difference between facts and opinion - much like jerk in the WH that apparently his staff has to work around him.
The 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act passed 30 days after inauguration 2009 gets more credit than TARP. So does the Fed. Read about it in the Economist and in Time. Go ahead and Google it.
It is a Fox and DD fantasy that the economy was already in recovery.

Until you can provide facts, I will no longer respond to your uneducated stupidity. Sad.

Step 1: Cast the bait.
Step 2: Wait for the idiot who cannot resist responding.
Step 3: Watch him behave like a pissy drama queen.

I truly hope your promise to leave me alone is not another one of your lies.

#TimeWillTell

Poor Truthy does not realize that The Economist and Time magazines are 100% editorial and therefore cannot be considered factual reporting.

They do report on facts and no, they are not simply editorial, unlike Fux news [sic].
Once again you have nothing to refute just more mind numbing stupid statements. You are typical of Trump supporters. Blue Wave November on its way. Impeachment of unstable-non-genius to follow.

Give me one fact to back up any of your neo-nazi claims.
a piece of information presented as having objective reality These are the hard facts of the case. Source: Webster Online Dictionary
So stupid, so sad.

Well, at least we know you're a liar. So much for not responding to me.

Cast the bait.

Idiot fish bites.

It flails about making himself look stupid.

#Lather

#Rinse

#Repeat

Yes, it was far worse than the 2001 recession by every measure. I have more sources I can cite if needed. You have none GEDarringer.
The International Monetary Fund concluded that it was the worst global recession since the Great Depression in the 1930s.[3][4] The causes of the recession largely originated in the United States, particularly the real-estate market, though policies of other nations contributed as well. According to the U.S. National Bureau of Economic Research (the official arbiter of U.S. recessions) the recession, as experienced in that country, began in December 2007 and ended in June 2009, thus extending over 19 months.[5] The Great Recession was related to the financial crisis.

The words of a #hypocrite: "I have more sources I can cite if needed." (I will not provide them, but I will demonstrate my hubristic hypocrisy by bashing someone with the "no facts" line.

And once again we know you're a liar.

Cast the bait.

Idiot fish bites.

It flails about making himself look stupid.

#Lather

#Rinse

#Repeat

@Truthy As for Neo-Nazi...if you look at the principles of the Alt-Left Democrats with their bigoted intolerance of anyone who disagrees with them, you'll find every rule in the Nazi playbook.

#ControlTheMedia
#PunishDissention
#Propaganda (lies masquerading as fact)
#GestapoMentality

The is no alt.left. This is a wet dream of the Fox new types. However, there is a very real alt.right and Bannon, Trump's buddy was the leader. It was an alt.right member that drove a car into a crowd in Charlottesville killing a woman.
It is the alt.right marching carrying torches chanting "Jews will not replace us."
The media? Fox news is Trump's media outlet - state controlled. You blowhards on here say the media is controlled by the left because it does not kiss the president's ass.

Gestapo mentality? It is Trump at his Nazi like rallies that encourages violence against the media and against those who do no t praise him. :Go ahead and punch them. I'll pay your legal bills." Quit with the diversion tactics straight from the KGB.

Your racism is showing too. Reread your post again. Nothing but insults. I must be getting to you dotard.

There goes Dumb Donny again - making sh*t up:
President Donald Trump spent the morning bragging about the economy. At least one of his claims didn't come close to being true.

"The GDP Rate (4.2%) is higher than the Unemployment Rate (3.9%) for the first time in over 100 years!" the president said in a tweet.The overall US economy grew at a 4.2% annual rate in the second quarter. Unemployment was between 3.8% and 4% during the quarter, and it came in at 3.9% in August.
That's all good news.
"It's definitely better when it's true than when it's not," said Justin Wolfers, professor of economics at University of Michigan. "I like high GDP growth and low unemployment."
But Trump got it wrong — way wrong — when he said it hasn't happened in a century.
In the last 70 years, it's happened in at least 62 quarters, most recently in 2006.

"He wasn't even in the neighborhood of right," Wolfers said in an interview."It certainly not a natural comparison. I've never seen it made before. It's not one that a macroeconomist would make. They're not comparable."

thanks Truthy, it is refreshing to see someone as the adult in the room

thanks Truthy, it is refreshing to see someone as the adult in the room

I know numbers are scary for Trump supporters and MDaranged really does not understand. However, the best way to look at debt is as a percentage of GDP as the dollar's value has changed over the years, but the formula for calculating percentages does not. Viewing US debt this way shows that the national debt peaked in 1946 at 119 percent vs 105 % last year. Google the charts. They are interesting.

Truthy continues to be a liar by going back on his promises. Anyone he disagrees with he calls them names, but get triggered if anyone does him the same way back. Truthy is just TheSteve with more hatred and anger, probably being overcompensatory for something.

Considering government debt from the vantage point of the annual federal budget, the U.S. fiscal situation has improved dramatically. The federal budget deficit has declined steadily from 9.8% of GDP in fiscal year 2009 to an estimated 3.2% of GDP in 2016. Source - JP Morgan Asset Management.
Gee, who was president during this time. Someone fiscally responsible I assume.

MDaranged, I only call you names in response to your personal insults, which apparently you use because you do not understand the topics. So you cover you inadequacy with insults and blanket statements. Your 5th grade level of writing betrays your lack of education and intellectual curiosity.
You confuse editorials for facts and Visa versa. Your belief that continuously cutting taxes is good for and economy show you get your news [sic] from boneheaded Fux.
Read a book an d write back later.

Cast the bait.

Idiot fish bites.

It flails about making himself look stupid.

#Lather

#Rinse

#Repeat

PS: "Truthy" (sic), this is a bold-faced lie on your part: "MDaranged, I only call you names in response to your personal insults..." You name call everyone and everything right and left and everyone sees it.

Monkeybama was a genius.

For the rest of you, here is my prediction: Truthy will lose his mind at the monkey comment because how dare I disrespect President Obama--he'll no doubt racialize his response being the good cliche monger he is--yet he will be incapable of resisting the bait. He will see no hypocrisy in his incessant slandering of President Trump. That's OK because in Truthy's mind it's OK to slander white people because that's not racist...to him.

*popcorn*

Of course if he were smart--and he obviously isnt--he'd live up to his promise never to respond to me again. #FatChance