Trump Claims Automakers That Plan To Go All EV Are Shortsighted - What Does He Know They Don't?

Think his comments were over read though he likes to put it out there to get a reaction...much preferred than ducking issues altogether like many of his predecessors. Until there is enough charging stations and shorter charging times it is wise as he points out that EVs should be a percentage of total production. Just under 24% of America's total population lives in apartments or group living, a sizable portion of the market that will need more than a long extension cord before switching to EVs.

Go to Chargepoint.com and see how many charging stations there are everywhere. That will double in the next year. Thinking the infrastructure is not there is shortsighted--the reality is the infrastructure is already there and new stations can be put up in a week or less unlike gas or hydrogen. Half of the EV owners I know now do not have a garage.

PUGPROUD, this is an idiotic comment even by your own standards. Instead of investing in coal, shouldn't we be investing in our electric grid/ charging stations. Like it or not, electric cars are the future unless something else comes along the way.

SOMEONE GET THIS ORANGE BABOON OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE....he needs his meds desperately

lmao, dotard.

#Triggered #Idiot

Yikes this is awkward...you do realize your fave pops up when googling “idiot”....just FYI

those new-fangled horseless carriages will never replace good ol' Betsy.

Absolutely nothing...

Especially considering his companies were not even able to beat the S&P 500 in value creation. He would have made more money literally investing all his money in the S&P and doing nothing. Everything he touches, he seems to make worse off than before.

What does donald trump know? NOTHING!

On second thought, he does know two things. How to be a traitor and how to ruin an economy.

OH looky, Mdarrringer is using all of his sock puppet names to downrate all the anti trump posts, poor little snowflake.

SSSSHHHHHHHHHHH, The imaginary accounts are coming! They can hear you!

What does donald trump know? NOTHING!

LMAO, why would anyone take advice from this dotard whose "foundation" was just shut down because of corruption.

And the haters continue to hate...

tRump should stick to real estate. GM needs to restructure and prepare for the future. It is not imports nor electric cars causing this, it is the foreign automakers building plants here. So there are new auto plants, just not GM plants.
And another reason for this is the hit GM took on costs by impulsive, ineffective and ultimately damaging tariffs on raw materials, namely steel and aluminum.

Here is another issue. By going to SUV's, Cuv's, and pickup trucks the aerodynamic inefficiencies of these vehicles becomes ever more apparent. One way around this is to go hybrid or full on electric. Battery technology is rapidly changing and every automaker realizing that there is a strong need to get into electric. Another point Europe has just imposed a lot stiffer pollution standards by the year 2030. Even Volkswagen Group who has committed to building EV's on a grand scale is now admitting that their current plan to reduce corporate vehicle emissions is not enough. China is ramping up it's EV sales an infrastructure. Ford, GM and FCA sell in China. So the big three is not wrong in investing in the technology. Further like VW partnering with Electrify America the big three could easily partner up with another EV infrastructure company or companies. So fast DC fast charging and range anxiety will become a thing of the past. As some of you have read Porsche and BMW have teamed up to produce fast chargers that can offer an additional 62 miles of range with just a 3 minute fast charge. For someone living in an apartment building who does not have access to an outside charging receptacle going to a fast charging station would not be much different than getting gas in a petrol engine vehicle. Finally most people that do city driving do not need a super long range. So for people living in a house its a charge overnight once a week or every other night etc. VW will be offering the I-Buzz with 2 battery options. The 24 grand car will offer the shorter range battery (206 mile range). The larger battery car(which will probably cost 31 or 32 grand)will get up to 356 miles in range. And this is before the tax incentives. So yes they are supposed to be going away. That might get reversed if we vote in a Democratic president and congress(quite possible). As far as what Trumpy boy says I would not hold much confidence in his rhetoric. He really does not understand how the auto business works. Remember VW has now committed to building batteries for plus 40 million EV vehicles. They plan now on upping that to meet the stringent 2030 Euro standards. I'm telling you there is going to be a large scale change over to EV's with in the next 5 to 7 years. The naysayers can wine and pontificate all they want. It's going to happen...................

monster said >>> Instead of investing in coal, shouldn't we be investing in our electric grid/ charging stations.

Coal powers the grid !!!

-Actually in the US it only partially powers the grid. Electricity on average is produced by 32% Natural Gas, 30% Coal and 20% Nuclear. Hydro is only 7.31%. Coal could be worked out of the mix with a greater focus on cleaner sources of electric power.

Agree on alternate sources and more of them to power the grid. Our state is trying to buy the excess power available from Canadian hydro plants, but the power lines have to run thru one or another of two neighboring states. Environmentalists are in both states are fighting the potential powerlines. So we build more gas plants. But we need bigger gas lines into the state but that too is blocked by environmentalists. Ergo we buy LNG from Russia. Go figure.

Mini22, there may indeed be a tipping point toward EVs, however it will take much longer than 5 - 7 years. A development cycle is about 5 years, so the annual 144 million vehicles sold globally will take decades to turnover.
And the prices you mention are unachievable. A model 3 Tesla today has an average price near 60 grand and loses money at this price.
It is unlikely the tax incentives will continue as it will subsidize car sales to a degree unsustainable.

The 3 doe not lose money at 60k.
It would on 35.
For now.

Like the stock market?
That turned south as soon as Donnyboy could make his impact felt.

lmao, oh no, we have angered the russian trumptards. So glad donnie dotard is going down in flames along with his corrupt spawn. Winning.

Putin just told him to withdraw from Syria, so he announced an immediate withdrawal surprising allies, the Pentagon and congress.
Sad.

Better hurry up on killing the EV tax credit before the foreign makes start ramping up viable offering.

For some reason people seem to forget the consumer market will determine the success or failure of EVs, no matter how much the Social Engineering Central Planners want it to.

The fact of the matter is there is more crude oil available than ever before with more efficient means of extraction coming constantly. Same with Natural Gas, coal is still abundant as a cheap form of energy for developing countries. The countries that have been forcing this Green agenda along with open borders immigration are witnessing a populist revolt. Brexit, Trump, 5 Star/League in Italy, Merkel being pushed out in Germany, Paris is burning, protest spreading to Brussels.

Other than the True Believers in Global Warming, the consumers are rejecting EVs, which is scaring the hell out of the auto companies that were forced to commit billions of dollars in development of the technology by governments that are now being rejected by the populous.

Global warming is real. Trouble is the electricity for these EVs must be produced somewhere. Unless it is nuclear energy. It is also polluting.

So is global cooling. So is the cyclical warming and cooling cycle. The earth has been much warmer than it is now. We're actually seeing global cooling now. So you probably have no choice to kneel and slurp Al Gore as a card-carrying Liberal. I understand.

Truthy-You take away range anxiety, you bring the price of an EV into the mid 20K range, you dramatically improve infrastructure and wal la people will switch. Granted it will happen first on both coasts of the US first and then work its way into the middle states. That's what will probably take the 5 to 7 years. In the interim you will have an increase in hybrids and plugin hybrids. So the change of course is not going cold turkey. However I'm betting that the hybrid and plugin hybrid buyers will be more receptive to pure electric than someone coming straight from a pure gas engine. And then you have to assume too that Trump may or may not be re-elected in 2020. If you get a democrat in and the senate switches to a Democratic majority then you have to bet that a lot of things that were enacted by Obama and undone by Trump will be re-enacted again. One of those could be reinstating the $7,500 EV credit for example. And Truthy, VW is already touting a 23 to 24 grand compact with 205 battery range and an upgraded battery pack costing about 32 grand with a 350 mile range. They are also talking fast charging time of 30 minutes to get to 80%. The vehicle propulsion landscape is going to be dramatically different within the next 5 yrs. You will see.

A fast charge time of only 30 minutes for 80%! Yea that’s going make people rush out and buy an EV when the average time at a gas station is 5 to 7 minutes. The American consumer has little patience to wait in long lines on a daily basis.

There is no global cooling. LOL. The speed of the increasing temps slowed slightly. Yes, the earth has been warmer in the past, but the increase was over 100s of thousands of years, not 150. Why is it Republicans only believe or understand science when it pertains to weapons?

Some EV's will have a fast time up to 80% in 15 minutes. And the technology is there to get you 62.5 miles of range in 3 minutes. So really any city driving will be pretty much covered if you don't plan on charging at home overnight. If you are on a trip and need the range you stop, plug in your vehicle and have a coffee and a snack. That can take 20 to 30 minutes right there. Frankly it would not be much of a change. But of course there needs to be multiple fast chargers at charging stations(5 or 6 at the minimum)so your not waiting to charge your vehicle. But realistically since EV's have come out on the market the average range has more than doubled. 200 mile range is considered the average. In a couple of years that will most likely push up closer to 300 mile range. The other point the average maintenance in theory on an should be less than any gasoline powered vehicle. No oil changes, no tuneups, no fluid changes or fills ups. No transmission issues, no muffler issues. Yes suspension and tires but that should be pretty much it.Figure average electric cost for a full recharge to be about $4 to $5 if you charge at home. The reality of it is If most of the car manufacturers are going to sell SUV's, Trucks, and CUV's electrification is probably the only way forward in the future along with hybrid tech.