EU Ignores French Unrest And Imposes Massive CO2 Emission Restrictions

According to the WSJ article this weekend the massive UN study done by major scientific groups that started all this found no direct cause and effect of man induced CO2 on the environment or any way man could significantly affect a change in CO2 levels to change the couse of the planet's evolution. Of course the UN rejected these findings and made a political decision to pressure governments to institute restrictions by taxation. Cows around the world emit more CO2 flatulence than autos every year. Now before the left dings me with hate speech, I'm just reporting that there are two sides to this issue. Believe what you want. Regarding the EU bureaucratic intellectuals in Brussels, you better be careful...ignoring the common folks and their concerns may bring the whole EU down.

Correct. Actually cows/bovine animal stock (1.5B-2.0B animals) emits more greenhouse gases than the global total cars, trucks, trains and planes in a given year. There is also contributions from the process to create the feed and handle the waste products associated with these numbers. As well, it can take up to 990L of water to make 1L of milk. Water will be the new oil in the not too distant future. And wars may be fought over it. Beef grown in a lab and reducing meat consumption globally would yield a lot of benefits for the planet.

@cyberlancer - Not to worry. Jesus and I are on good terms. I see him every Sunday at mass. :)

Actually - this was an Editorial -= not a scientific based assessment -
And much of the claims and speculation in their article has been Debunked by Multiple Scientific Studies. The UN study was mentioned was an economic study - had no scientific basis for the environment. The WSJ - over the decades - has been a source of anti-climate change nonsense - normally from small studies by non-environmental scientists - who often claim that global warming ISN'T happening. However - anyone who lives near a coast knows that the Ocean levels have risen quite a bit in the last 40 years and based on Average Temperatures - Four of the Last five years have been among the top 5 average temperature years - (One ranked 6th).

WHenever I see such stuff from Business biased groups I Look for the studies that have been published in major Scientific journals - to support them - and they normally have no such thing. One of the biggest "Drs" against global warming actually has a doctorate in ECONOMICS. ANd while it is nice to make such claims as the ones about cows with Flatulence - that is also not supported by any true scientific studies.

When asked - as I do to Pugproud - for True scientific evidence of your claims - that was published in a recognized Scientific Journal actually done by Environmental Scientists - I never receive anything that actually has validity. One time - one person here posted 50 references for me - and NONE of them had a basis in science - more telling is that of the 50 - 38 actually did not exist.

The EU politicians were the same group that declared diesel vehicles were the solution to the CO2 issue. They pushed that on the industry and their citizens. Oops. To quote Roseanne Rosanadana"Never Mind". Now a new political solution. What these studies ignore,including the US one released on 11/23, is the ability of mankind to both reduce the CO2 as well as creatively adapt to fact that the earth is warming for reasons other than man's activities. It's always been changing and humans have adapted. The USA advantage over Europe is that we are much better at creating new ways of doing things and new industries. Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon and yes Tesla, where are the European equivalents? Their social style of government isn't friendly to innovation. Politicians forcing this stuff on everyone invites the backlash shown in France and even here as it impacts many people's immediate quality of life and financial well being negatively. Until the politicians factor that in their solutions will backfire.

Another bunch of Nonsense

There was NEVER a scientific study that declared that Diesel Vehicles were the solution to the CO2 issue - In fact - Diesel Vehicles predominated in Europe for an economic reason - the cost of Gasoline was heavily taxed - but they could not tax Diesel without causing major transportation problems for the Trucking Industry - so Diesel is cheap in Europe and the masses who could not afford the gas - could afford the diesel.

The fact is - we do not actually know all of the reasons why the warming is happening - but NO responsible scientist has ever said that the earth IS ONLY warming for reasons beyond MAN. The fact is - it is the rising CO2 levels that is causing most of the warming - and certainly MAN has contributed to that through Industrialization.

Actually - there is PLENTY of European Research on Global Warming - Look Up the Partnership for European Environmental REsearch as just one example on a large scale with 9 countries involved.

At this point - there is Overwhelming Evidence that Global Warming is happening at least Partially due to Industrialization - and Politicians who listen to the idiots who try to disclaim that FACT - are now scrambling as the sea levels rise to record levels around the globe. I would question why you ask about equivalents of companies outside the USA - when most of the Industrial product produced by the US companies you mention does come from here - are produced in third word countries.

It is not Politicians who are forcing this issue- the Global Warming is. IF there was a simple solution to Global Warming that could be done cheaply - APPARENTLY those US companies have not found it. THat PLUS the fact that we are currently undergoing a major transformation in Industrial TEchnology that is essentially eliminating the middle class around the world - is why France is having problems. But if you think current conditions are affecting our quality of life - and financial well being - wait until the polar ice caps are gone - then you will see real problems.

Slow down Tom. I am not talking personally, but about dealing with the issue and what is obviously a problem of leading the population versus dictating to them. China dictates, we haven't had success with that. See Prohibition. Personally, my house has geothermal HVAC powered by solar and a nuke plant which unfortunately shuts down in 6 months due to environmentalist saying solar and wind should replace it. To get a reliable grid it will be replaced by gas. Hydro power was also supposed to replace it but environmentalists have prevented transmission lines from being built to bring it here. So there are powerful forces fighting CO2 reduction for their own "quality of life" issues. I bought a Jeep diesel with expensive DEF technology to reduce CO2 and NOX (yeah I know). I can afford to do all this but the majority of the folks around here can't. You can obviously can afford to as well, so when will a Tesla replace the Maybach? If you feel that strongly about CO2 what are you personally doing to lead by example. That's what it will take.

Can we just destroy France once and for all. Historically, it's really a douche of country.

@MD- I'd miss the bike race, french women, their bread and their mustard.

Bicycles are for pussies, French women are hairy, Italian bread is better, and give me hot-dog yellow. France is merde.

How about we just start the destruction at your house? OK Darringer? How would you like that?

So because you are too unintelligent to understand sarcasm, you become easily triggered and want to destroy my house?

Sure, thing. Come try it.

I hope you're adept at dodging bullets from a Ruger Redhawk.

Global warming and global cooling has occurred multiple times over the millennia. We've had ice ages. Now we're on a warming trend. Eventually we will have another ice age.

So long as we don't blow up the planet with nukes, we should be ok.

Please understand that there is no money in admitting that everything in life is cyclical.

Agree there is no money from a political view. There is the potential for money to be made in adapting to the changes. The Dutch have successfully stopped high water with dikes, which is infrastructure spending. The French, Matt's favorites, get some 90% of their electricity from Nukes, hence no CO2. More construction jobs. Yup, people have to change some, regardless of your politics, to successfully adapt.

The Liberal unicorn idiocy in some of the posts above would be funny if it were not so dangerously unintelligent. But then again TomM isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, but he is a tool.