DO You Or Do You NOT Agree With The Auto Press? Tesla Will Be Overtaken By Audi And Jaguar?

By Audi for certain.
Jaguar? LOL Yeah...sure. British + electric = darkness.
VWAG will destroy Tesla if they want to.

Oh boy...MD, you may be eating those words by next Christmas. ;)

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If you're putting your money on Jaguar rather than Audi/VWAG, you need therapy.

Jaguar - like everybody else - needs to produce 2-3 EV's the both replace their current models & perform similarly as well. VW/Audi seems to have taken a long while.....but they actually have EV vehicles that could seemingly replace existing models in their lineup.

And VW/Audi has realized the idea of not having to design some crazy-looking ultra-futuristic, space-agey vehicles for their EV lineup. Vehicles that of have the brand's modern design with the latest EV tech is the way to go. They can make a Porsche EV to go head-to-head with the fastest Tesla EV. They can make an Audi EV to compete with their ultra-tech-luxury interiors & overall experience. All of this within acceptable pricing ranges.

And since VW has been forced to spend billions to develop a separate national EV changing station infrastructure in the US, it makes sense to push forward & get their corporate brands moving on getting their separate EV's on the road.

Jaguar is already beating Tesla in a few small markets in Europe. Have to agree that VW can take off as they plan a larger number of models.

Success in automaking is about having great ideas AND having ample 'capitalization' (i.e. cash flow for recurring R&D).

VW/Audi has both; Jaguar/Tata has both; Tesla has lots of good ideas but its virtually impossible to maintain momentum if there is the anvil hanging over their heads about money running out and then needing to refill the coffers with investor money under ever more onerous terms.

My money is on Jaguar - they have a 'clarity of offering' that Tesla has, but that VW Group lacks. I am not confident VW has the singlemindedness to go all the way to the goal.

Audi and Jaguar are in a different class of vehicles than the entry level Tesla
That they will likely take THEIR Premium class is obvious- while Tesla still has sold NO cars under $36,000 - they can hardly say they dominate a market they have avoided to enter.

Tesla isn't entry level, dumbass.

The comparison to Blackberry and Apple is interesting. Blackberry was the first mover, only to be overtaken by Apple and its proprietary operating system, which has been overtaken in market volume leadership by large manufacturer Samsung et.al. using Android open architecture. Tesla's proprietary charging stations versus a developing industry standard used by others(open architecture) as well as its huge investment in li battery technology that could overtaken by next gen batteries could be Tesla's achilles heel. There will always be Tesla fans and it could maintain a segment of the market, but being a mainstream player may be financially difficult as the market segment becomes large enough to attract well healed players.

Remember that Apple doesn't need to sell at similar volumes like Samsung. Social media & meticulous marketing has positioned Apple as the "more" premium brand & so Apple is able to sell most of it's products at their "recommended retail price". Most fanatics will pay full-price for Apple devices - no questions asked. Apple's profits are ridiculously fantastic - even w/o the latest & greatest products on sale.

Stupidity personified to compare technology company's histroy with Tesla's history. Electric cars are NOT high tech, they are simply vehicles which have an electric powertrain. Duh!! And Tesla does NOT have any technologoical lead, as some EV-ignorant auto stock analysts have argued, pumping their stock. To wit : the e-tron and I Pace are simply the first two bona fide Tesla competitors, the Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf are not direct competitors of any current Tesla vehicle - they will be direct competitors when Tesla builds their imaginary $35,00 Model Y. The e-tron and I Pace both have similar DC fast charging abilities to Tesla's Supercharger and will get faster real soon, as their superior CCS charging technology (the worldwide standard for 99% of electric cars) enables 350 and now 450KW charging power,as opposed to Tesla's 120KW max charging power. Driving ranges are also similar to Tesla's vehicles, at a much lower cost - the $36,000 Chevy Bolt can travel as far as the twice as expensive Tesla Model S. The CCS charging networks (plural) will totally dwarf Tesla's pathetic "one within 150 miles of any American." The Jaguar I Pace has garnered 17 awards at last count, including Car of the Year, Best Car, etc. It has a waiting list - the Model S and Model X have NOBODY waiting on any list to buy one of these recently discounted vehicles, which now have lower production rates. Want to see a Tesla killer in action? - take a gander at the recent monthly sales of the I Pace in the Netherlands - it outsold its direct competitor, the Tesla Model X, by 2 to 1 and almost did the same against the Model S. And the I Pace is currently production limited compared to demand.
The upcoming Porsche Taycan, which can recharge 4 times faster than a Tesla and
has greater range and is faster and with far more advanced styling than the aging Model S, already has a long waiting list and is guaranted to outsell the Model S, its direct competitor as soon as the factory produces them in volume. These, plus the Volvo Polestar 2, which its direct competitor, the Tesla Model 3 is hopelessly inferior to, and counting tax credits, will be burdened by a net price more than $13,000 greater than the Polestar 2. These are only the very first in a tsunami of more than 250 electric Tesla competitors that will arrive in real showrooms over the next several years. Tesla's outlook is not good, not good.. sell your Tesla shares while the world still focuses on irrelevant issues like Model 3 production rates. And that Model 3 waiting list is depleted of those willing to fork over an extra $10,000 to $35,000 for a
higher optioned Model 3 - deliveries are now promised in days, and with a $7500 tax credit. Tesla still cannot generate sales to match supply. Now watch what happens when then tax credit leaves Teslaand goes to its competitors. The Model 3 waiting list has reportely already lost 25% of its members. But, hwey, these are just facts, and therefor not likely to shake the

nobody gives a shit about tesla except their ass licking fanboys like the OP. fuck tesla. when the real manufacturers get serious about electric vehicles they will bury tesla

I believe your comment is made up.

In the next 2 to 3 years when VAG comes on board as well as BMW, Mercedes with multiple EV's Tesla will be over taken. As far as Jaguar they are two small by themselves. However they are owned by Tata Motors. That means they can perhaps share their technology Tata's lower cost vehicles they sell in the east. I would predict that Tesla will either be a stand alone niche player in 5 years or will eventually be absorbed by a larger car maker and become their EV luxury division. Tesla simply does not have the same money behind it that a VAG or BMW has. Further your talking about GM investing heavily into EV's and Ford working with VW. You have to wonder how long Tesla can remain independent. Musk made his original wealth in Ebay and sold that to get into Tesla. I can see Musk eventually selling out to spend his full time on Spacex. Look you have to give it to Tesla as they are really responsible for transforming the EV into a volume market. It has forced all the other car makers to get into the game. So now they are or will be. Therefore Tesla in the future can only survive long term if it is bought out. Maybe Hyundai/Kia will buy them who knows.

Agent001 actually has a relevant comparison. And I love reading the stupid hater comments. You have to look at the whole package. Being a leader has advantages.
Who else can compete with a vast supercharger network? Who else can offer an easy direct buying experience? (I know going to a car dealer or the dentist is a hard choice.) Where will all the competition buy their batteries? Will Tesla have 2nd gen model S and X by the time everyone else has their first gen? Will everyone else offer OTA updates and improve functionality? (i.e. minimal buttons)
These are questions buyers will ask and whoever offers the best full package will succeed. Tesla is years ahead of everyone else. Competition will catch up, but that doesn't mean Tesla will fold. Additionally, there's no guarantee most of the traditional auto makers will be able to compete in this EV space. Where's Blackberry, Nokia, Motorola? The haters can keep hating, but Tesla is beyond the hump and looking stronger.

Tesla is about to get walloped by VWAG for one...

Jaguar? No way. Audi has a chance if they can build out their infrastructure i.e. high speed charging stations. Right now Tesla is way way ahead in that game. The next step will be batteries that charge more quickly and have more range. That will be the biggest game changer.

Within 2 years the new EV Sheriff in town is going to be VWAG. No question about it. The Porsche Tacan and the Audi E-tron are just the tip of the iceberg in terms of EV's. VW will have 2 coming out next year at a significantly lower price than a Tesla Model 3 and much more to come. Further by partnering up with Electrify America it is not hard to predict that their infrastructure will soon exceeds Tesla's by a significant margin. They will offer a similar if not better range and also offer faster charging then Tesla's chargers. S while Tesla is out in front it's not going to be for long.