If You Think For A Minute That The Chinese Can't Produce A Compelling SUV, Then Take A look At THIS 536HP Tesla Killer

If You Think For A Minute That The Chinese Can't Produce A Compelling SUV, Then Take A look At THIS 536HP Tesla Killer

Shanghai-based Nio has lifted the veils off their second production electric vehicle, the ES6 midsize all-electric SUV.

 Following in the footsteps of the larger ES8, the ES6 marks Nio’s entry into a more affordable market segment, something that theoretically should give a strong boost to the brand’s sales. Nio, often referred to as China’s Tesla, describes the ES6 as a “high-performance, long-range, smart electric SUV.” Here’s why.
 

















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dumpstydumpsty - 12/21/2018 11:03:28 AM
+2 Boost
The PM & IM motors. I need to read up on the differing powertrain tech.

The flat modular fuel/battery platform can become a major design direction for future mainstream EV's.


atc98092atc98092 - 12/21/2018 6:08:32 PM
+2 Boost
I believe only one of them is capable of providing regen braking. I also understand the one that isn't capable of it is more energy efficient. By using both, and controlling them properly, it should offer the best of both styles.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 12/26/2018 8:01:57 PM
+1 Boost
They can both regen. The Model 3 also uses one of each type.


dlindlin - 12/21/2018 2:04:46 PM
+3 Boost
It's certainly as Chinese as your iPhone ;)


F1_DriverF1_Driver - 12/21/2018 6:19:35 PM
+1 Boost
The iPhone was not designed by the Chinese. It was assembled by the Chinese. Big difference.


dlindlin - 12/23/2018 3:18:41 PM
+1 Boost
As I said design looks quite fine
It's the mechanical durability that I'm concerned with. No one surpasses Japanese on that.



MDarringerMDarringer - 12/23/2018 4:28:06 PM
+1 Boost
No worse than Tesla that had no experience designing and engineering cars before the S/X/3. Bolting batteries into a plastic kit car doesn't count as manufacturing.


OneOfOneOneOfOne - 12/21/2018 12:33:34 PM
-4 Boost
stolen tech and who gives a shit about tesla besides agent009? take the tesla cock out of your mouth and start being objective


dlindlin - 12/21/2018 1:58:40 PM
0 Boost
Well integrated design for mainstream cars... like what Mazda do for its design.
Tesla is innovative, but too simplistic. You better give people more 'stuff', whatever it is, for that amount money


TruthyTruthy - 12/21/2018 2:13:51 PM
+2 Boost
Looks just like the new Acura RDX. Aside from that, it is not a zero sum game. It can be successful without putting a dent in Tesla sales. Over the last 15 years I have read numerous reviews about the next BMW 3 Series "killer." Yet it is still here and doing well while the "killers" are mostly struggling.


MDarringerMDarringer - 12/21/2018 4:01:57 PM
0 Boost
I love the bigotry of people who assume that the Chinese are too stupid to engineer anything.


Vette71Vette71 - 12/21/2018 4:44:26 PM
0 Boost
After opening an assembly plant to make a product there in 1989 we found degreed engineers willing to leave their families, take an 8 hour train ride, to work as assemblers for an American company. Bright, skilled, ambitious I recall thinking give these guys some experience and the tools our engineers had and in a decade or so they'll be making a difference. Don't underestimate them. The USA underestimated Toyota et. al. in the 1960s and 70s and look how that turned out.


Vette71Vette71 - 12/22/2018 10:26:51 AM
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Don't disagree at all that they copy, steal, and have a rigged system that discriminates against us. The reason for the plant in China I mention is to generate "export currency" in order to get our main product into China. Export currency was their way of growing their own businesses. You had to have it to import into China. My point was given education and experience they are very capable competitors not to be underestimated. Actually having dealt with both China and Japan I have a far deeper respect for the Chinese as competition across multiple industries, long term.

As far as the Japanese go, in the late 60s and 70s they set up shop in Detroit and ran fax machines 24/7 sending SAE documents back to Japan. We gave them tours of our auto plants, allowing cameras. We're naive nice guys. Yes in 80's they used Deming quality to fine tune the manufacturing process they learned from the USA. Quality systems work. In my business when our Japanese competitor announced in 1985 that they were building a plant in the USA to take a significant share of our scientific instrument market we turned that weapon back on them. Our manufacturing had already employed quality methods, which reduces costs at the same time, so we used that weapon to declare war on them. We went from a 35% market share of the USA market to 70% in four years, and used the increased profits to attack them in Japan. They never made it in the USA. The USA is in an economic war and needs to take it seriously.


MDarringerMDarringer - 12/22/2018 3:10:28 PM
+3 Boost
@cyberlancer You're racist.


F1_DriverF1_Driver - 12/21/2018 6:18:28 PM
+2 Boost
China, the world's largest Xerox machine.


MDarringerMDarringer - 12/21/2018 6:41:22 PM
-4 Boost
You're a bigot.


pentupnrgy69pentupnrgy69 - 12/22/2018 9:51:07 AM
+3 Boost
Oh please Darringer, everybody who looks at this site and reads your stupid and insipid remarks knows that you're a huge bigot and racist. All you've managed to do is project your own prejudices on to somebody else. Get a new hobby and grow up. How stupid do you have to be to be a supporter of trump, one only has to look at your posts to find the answer.


MDarringerMDarringer - 12/22/2018 10:45:24 AM
-2 Boost
@pentupngry69 and you lost the debate by going ad hominem. You also need to look up the meaning of racist. Just because something I say does not mesh with your politics does not make me racist, but it does make you bigoted and intolerant.

Saying that the Chinese are incapable of engineering anything is a bigoted/racist statement and you're calling me a bigot and a racist because you support the point of view of the bigoted/racist statement about the Chinese. #hypocrite

You really need to avoid me because you're not intelligent enough to respond effectively.


Section_31_JTKSection_31_JTK - 12/21/2018 8:42:13 PM
+4 Boost
I'm Chinese and I will say that China is the world's biggest thief of technology. Sure they can build the thing. But the tech behind all of that is probably stolen from American companies.

It's not different than how the ChiComs managed to get a contract in Long Beach to service the American Navy Aegis destroyers. They stole all the plans and now are building clones.

China is in a war with the United States. They seek to dominate economically and militarily. They know it and want it. Dumb ass Americans like us don't and won't do anything about it.


valhallakeyvalhallakey - 12/23/2018 2:34:56 AM
+1 Boost
Late to the comment party. This looks pretty darn nice, doesn’t seem like a cut and paste job either in the styling or technology. Welcome to the party China.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 12/26/2018 8:03:23 PM
+1 Boost
They have a large US presence in San Jose as well and are planning to hire thousands of people here, including engineers.


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