WSJ Columnist Claims Internal Combustion Engine Vehicles Will Go The Way Of The Flip Phone

I agree, but you're looking at 20-30 years from now.

I am looking at the past 8 years already and it is striking how much better EVs have gotten just in the period of one car generation.

At minimum an ICE care will be perceived as a flip phone within 10 years. Apple went from the 1st gen iphone to complete ubiquity in 5 years. There is no way the transition will take 20-30 years. The combination of EV + self-driving will make all traditional cars redundant and dramatically lower the cost of ownership and transportation.

yup just a technology gap issue. heck once we perfect foldable screens flip phones will be back.

To compare an 1800s car with 20 miles of range and a 40mph speed limit to today is asinine. We've had long range EVs since 2008, that's it.

He is right, but his timeline is a bit too aggressive. EVs will continue to gain market share and IC cars will fall, but he seems to believe that in the lifetime of current model year vehicles the demand for IC vehicles will be zero. This may be correct in certain communities in California or in Norway, but it is not reflective of the US market as a whole. Even the most optimistic projections by EV backers predict sometime between 2030-2035 as when EVs will make up 50% of the market.

There will be a time when gasoline and repair stations will be dirt cheap and that's the time when the big boys on WSJ will be snatching them up. Goldman Sachs once bought all the Brunswick bowling alleys for 35 cents on the dollar when bowling was on the skids and they made a fortune on the real estate within a decade.

Ah real-estate. The one asset class that they don't make anymore.

Real estate can be lucrative.

I'm glad the tone toward EV has changed. Not long ago EV was not even considered viable, now it's the future even a generation away from replacing ICE.

I do my part in spreading the words by giving rides and test drives on my Model 3, and hope more people have access to EV to try for themselves how good EV can be compared to archaic ICE machines. The more EV becomes available, the more people will realize that it IS a smart choice, even based on economic considerations only.

It may not yet be the end of ICE but the tipping point is near. A looming US recession is what will take to bring down ICE and the dinosaurs making it.

The irony is that EVs are far worse for the environment.

Except that they aren't.

Except that they are.

He does not include the purchase price in his calculation. A new model 3 average transaction price is 2 to 3 times that of a similar sized and equipped ICE car. It would require closer to 15 - 20 years to amortize the difference.
He must own Tesla stock, be senile or likely both.

Oh, you mean like a 3-series, A4, C class, IS? Maybe 2 times for a bare bones, but not 3, can't get those new for under $30k and most are close to $40k. The Model 3 now starts at $46k before incentives.

@vdiv the difference is that when Mercedes says a car will be available for $35K, the car is actually available for $35K and no BS justifications are had, no any bait and switch schemes with the customers.

Those are not luxury, they are entry premium.

He also does not figure in the cost of his time standing around waiting for it to recharge.

And EV would simply not work for my company car and no EV can do what our Rams can do.

People don't wait around to charge, it's done overnight or when they do other things, eat, walk the dog, work, exercise. But you know that, right?

Yes they do if they are going long distance. I couldn't drive to Newport Beach and back without substantially increasing my time away. The drive to Tucumcari would be a total nightmare.

IMHO, the first EV with a 500 range and 5 minute charge time, will be start the end of the ICE car.

That's a minimum 10 year out goal.

Sorry but that's like insisting Dewalt/Milwaukee/Makita's largest capacity battery has to recharge in 5 minutes or it's back to extension cords at the jobsite.

After a 500 mile drive, I need a break. 5 min to top off? Sure. But not another 500 miles. Few diesels can deliver on that.

Incoherent argumentation.
When someone says "sorry" they aren't sorry, so that makes then hypocrites.

Job site extra batteries are being charged while others are in use. There is no down time. Some have suggested EV battery swaps at stations but is not practical for a number of issues.

“This is above all a pocketbook issue for me. A gas-powered vehicle would be too expensive. I plan to keep my next vehicle 10 years, at least. Over that time the cost of ownership for an EV, including fuel (on the order of a penny a mile for the electricity), repairs and maintenance would be considerably lower than comparable costs of an IC [internal-combustion] car.”

He seems to have missed the fact that the Globalist Central Planers that are trying to social engineer the change to EVs are being rejected by their populous. Fossil fuels are going to be with us for a long time, the USA is now a net exporter of oil and that is before places like Anwar and off shore are even on line. The attempt to phase out the ICE via the Paris Climate Treaty caused Paris to become very Hot recently, that has spread globally. The best option to recoup the investment in EV technology would be as supplemental to an ICE via Hybrid technology.

Why would you buy technology that will be horribly outdated in 5 years?

Exactly, why would you buy an ICE car today?

This means, of course, that the truck drivers, rednecks, and some conservative loonies on this site will be forced to... *GASP* buy an electric car sooner or later.

How do you like them apples?

Yet still more hate speech. Why is your heart so vexed with rage? It will shorten your life and give you a heart attack. The bleeding hearts probably care about you.