Take A Spin In A Volkswagen ID Prototype And See What Tesla Has To Worry About

Take A Spin In A Volkswagen ID Prototype And See What Tesla Has To Worry About

Late next year, the long-awaited Volkswagen ID hatchback will be revealed before reaching global markets in 2020. If this review of an early prototype is anything to go by, Tesla should be taking the threat of the ID very seriously.

During a recent round of testing of the all-electric hatchback near Cape Town in South Africa, the Fully Charged channel on YouTube was invited for an early drive of the vehicle.


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MDarringerMDarringer - 12/28/2018 10:04:33 AM
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Do I believe that VW is capable of a true breakthrough vehicle? Yes.

BUT if they advertise an advantageous price point (1) the car must be readily available at that price point and (2) it cannot be so much of a stripper that everyone has to buy the one that costs $3K more to get a passable vehicle.

VW also needs to deliver quality beyond reproach with a "Hyundai" warranty.

The completely stupid move is to lead with an EV "Golf" rather than something that makes a real statement.


rockreidrockreid - 12/28/2018 10:52:42 AM
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Yet another EV that looks like a weird design cast-off like the i3. Simply a squished up 4 door Golf econobox hatchback. Yawn. Based on the talking points in the interview sounds like they decided to eliminate storage space up front by squishing the climate system up where the engine would be. May not have any “frunk” at all and lost convenience storage. We’ll see I guess... in 2020. ...2021 more like.

While the US market largely abandoned hatchbacks years ago, it seems the only mass market proper 4 door sedan priced for the mass market remains the Model 3 for the forseeable future. ...and the Model Y reveal date March 2019 looms ever closer.


MDarringerMDarringer - 12/28/2018 11:11:38 AM
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They should have done a Beetle EV as an everyperson's (sic) affordable EV. They could have called it the Type 1e.


TruthyTruthy - 12/28/2018 11:17:35 AM
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There is a difference between "reveal date" and on sale date. In Tesla's case, about 2 - 3 years. And the "reveal" is timed to coincide with the first $ 1 billion debt note due. Another con to distract from the crashing sounds.
And at nearly $60,000, the 3 is hardly a car for the masses.


rockreidrockreid - 12/28/2018 11:49:48 AM
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The Tesla Model 3 can be had for $46k before tax writeoffs. I’m not sure where you are getting the $60k.

My Model 3 Long Range was $49k. Fantastic ride. Fantastic mpg-e and range. Handles like a 2000-era BMW 3 series....perhaps the best driving 3 series ever. Kids love it. Clean uncluttered minimalist design that out-Volvos Volvo. Take one for a test drive. Try not to smile as you put your foot down.


MDarringerMDarringer - 12/28/2018 12:23:52 PM
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The data on transaction price of the Model 3 supports $60K not $45K,


rockreidrockreid - 12/28/2018 12:58:31 PM
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Transaction price...So.. people are willing to option up the Tesla Model 3 to well above its base price of $46k. Good news for Tesla Motors and investors I would think.

Still does not change the fact that you can get a Model 3 for $46k right now that includes the Premium package.


MDarringerMDarringer - 12/28/2018 1:37:33 PM
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And pigs can fly.



bperlownpsbperlownps - 12/28/2018 1:29:40 PM
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rockreid- Frunks are stupid and add weight to the car for the minimal extra storage. Having a smaller nose of the car also allows better aerodynamics, which leads to better mileage and performance. The ID is taking advantage of a lack of ICE motor and parts. I would actually like to see Tesla remove the frunks from some of their cars. If the 3 didn't have a Frunk, it would have even better performance and range.


rockreidrockreid - 12/29/2018 8:36:34 AM
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Frunks add weight. That’s about the most inane thing I’ve ever read. You have no idea what you are talking about. The Model 3 is the lowest drag coefficient car on the road at .23. In fact, the top 3 most efficient vehicles on the road are all Teslas. And all have frunks. The nearest competitors start at .26 and get worse from there. Next time try and do a little research instead of simply shooting your mouth off and looking like a moron.


ColMosbyColMosby - 12/29/2018 1:24:40 PM
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That's not even the first of the vehicles that are impacting Tesla sales.
Tesla is behind the curve, overpriced, mediocre driving ranges, now no longer the fastest battery recharge capability, with often poor build quality (Model X rated by everyone as the most unreliable car on the road - well,sometimes on the road). US. tax credit situation will especially kill sales of the Model 3 and the Modely, whenever that vehicle arrives. Model S and Model S cars being outsold two to one inEuropean countries by the I Pace and have lost 40% ofsales in Norway. The Porsche Taycan has sold out its first year production -which will be greater than the combined sales of the Model S and Model X. And it still has a waiting list and a large number of buyers were Tesla ownders.


bperlownpsbperlownps - 1/2/2019 1:55:45 PM
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rockreid if the tesla 3 had no frunk, it would have even BETTER aerodynamics. Less frontal area, and weight would increase range. The Tesla 3 is a brilliant car, but it trying to look to much like an ICE design. With electric cars there is no need for longer front ends. More range, and more performance, means less weight. The car could probably take 100 or so pounds off, and get to .21 or less if it had no frunk. My issue with Tesla is that they aren't pushing the design and tech to an electric car's advantage.



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