What Next For Lamborghini In 2019? - How About A Pickup?

What Next For Lamborghini In 2019? - How About A Pickup?
The reason above is why McLaren hasn't jumped the SUV bandwagon since the Brits only returned to making road cars back in 2011. Of course, we have brands like Aston Martin, which has steadily worked to make their clientele comfortable with the idea of a crossover and ready to pluck the fruits of their labor.

And while the fact that Porsche fought against prejudice in the early 2000s means it can enjoy its status as an SUV builder these days, nobody can beat Lamborghini, since the Italians brought the LM002 to the market back in 1986, way before SUVs were cool and sold like hot cakes.
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MDarringerMDarringer - 12/31/2018 2:25:47 PM
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So VW is going to turn the Ranger into the next Aamrok, so why not throw Lamborghini fenders on a Ranger and call it good?


CANADIANCOMMENTSCANADIANCOMMENTS - 12/31/2018 4:11:11 PM
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@MD- Just saw a video on YouTube from the Toronto Lamborghini dealer. On the sale of any new car they have you sign away rights to first refusal. If you want to sell your car privately and get an offer, they have 72 hours to meet or beat that price. Thus they said to keep the resale price of the cars high. A) Does this work with high end cars that drop like a stone? B) Is it normal for exotic car sales?


MDarringerMDarringer - 12/31/2018 4:24:46 PM
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The contract is null and void if the clause is not enforceable in the jurisdiction where the car is sold. If I buy an Lambo in Toronto and sell it in Los Angeles, the Canadian statute would not likely apply for example.

The best trick when dealing with someone like that is to bring you attorney and tie them up in knots.

On the flip side, I can buy a Lamborghini and then you can say you want to buy it at a higher price. If they are stupid enough to fall for it, WE make a profit.




CANADIANCOMMENTSCANADIANCOMMENTS - 12/31/2018 5:55:42 PM
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@MD-Ok. But what is in it for the dealer? Why would they want you to sign a document that gives them first right of refusal? The want to control the resale market for their cars? Have first pick at the best ones? Would they still sell you a car if you refused to sign and grant them these rights?


PUGPROUDPUGPROUD - 12/31/2018 6:45:04 PM
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The devil is in the contract details...length of contract, triggering offer, time to respond, etc. etc. and litigation likely. Ford tred something similar with new GT, not allowing resale within a couple years suing John Senna. Think Ferrari tried it once too but backed off because hard to enforce and angered loyal customers. Buyers should negotiate a put at fair market value which would put an end to this.


MDarringerMDarringer - 12/31/2018 6:49:48 PM
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Seems like an odd request, but I don't sell Lamborghinis. How do they verify that the buyer is actually willing to may the amount stated? I have written in first rights clauses on TVRs and Jensens but that is that I have the option to buy it back for the price it sold for with the right to make a counter offer higher if the offer to the owner is higher than sales price, but it's only because I love the cars. i've literally never exercised the clause.


PUGPROUDPUGPROUD - 1/1/2019 6:36:32 AM
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It is very difficult to get a qualified offer. Buyers don't like to go thru a thorough inspection/due diligence (whether it be a business, piece of real estate, car, etc) and then have to negotiate/sign an agreement to purchase subject to loosing it to someone else who matches their offer. Anyone who would buy a car from a dealer and agree to a right of first refusal puts the dealer in control of their car...insanity!


CANADIANCOMMENTSCANADIANCOMMENTS - 1/1/2019 9:24:38 AM
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@MD-Here is the video where the customer is told they have to sign away first right of refusal. Apparently required from Lamborghini corporate. Odd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QTtTTRqHhk


MDarringerMDarringer - 1/1/2019 9:36:45 AM
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My question would be whether the stipulation by Lamborghini "corporate" aka VW is enforceable. People put things in contracts all the time that are unenforceable and just because something is in a contract does not mean it will pass legal muster.


FoncoolFoncool - 1/1/2019 9:44:23 AM
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This is common practice by Ferrari for years. Want to fight it with your lawyer? Fine you just guaranteed that you’ll find it very difficult to ever buy a new Ferrari again.


MDarringerMDarringer - 1/1/2019 11:55:29 AM
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But does Ferrari get away with it on a legal basis or is it more "mafia" i.e. If you want to be allowed to buy a Ferrari you have to kiss our asses?


FoncoolFoncool - 1/1/2019 2:07:13 PM
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Ferrari is Ferrari and like it or not they operate at a level far beyond everyone else and can do things no one else can. Others are trying to emulate Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini and McLaren continue to try, Aston has been somewhat successful up to a point. But their IPO showed they aren’t there.

Maserati was actually on its way to it when they were under the control of Ferrari, but Marcchione wanted to take them in the direction of Porsche and made the mistake of appointing Chrysler personnel and its dealer network to accomplish it. They have admitted they’ve treated Maserati like a mass market brand and are going to change direction. Let’s see if they do.


MDarringerMDarringer - 1/1/2019 2:26:46 PM
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Maserati is deader than dead and billions of dollars will be needed to relaunch the brand. With the Giulia and Stelvio failing to become big sellers, FCA's premium brands are in deep caca at the moment.


dumpstydumpsty - 12/31/2018 3:21:30 PM
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nope.

unless M-B gets serious about bringing a heavily updated X-class to N.A. & China.

the current Cayenne is very capable SUV. A Lambo pickup (if ever - sacrilegious) could compete with an Xclass AMG. wou


MDarringerMDarringer - 12/31/2018 4:00:28 PM
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The Cayenne is capable on road, but off road, it's not all that.


PUGPROUDPUGPROUD - 12/31/2018 3:59:54 PM
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The ever growing list of billionaires need to feel exclusive and not ordinary, don't they?


MDarringerMDarringer - 12/31/2018 4:47:36 PM
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Especially to drive to the winery to pick up a case and transport it home.



TruthyTruthy - 12/31/2018 5:12:55 PM
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Someone is celebrating New Year's early.


MDarringerMDarringer - 12/31/2018 5:32:45 PM
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We celebrate at home with 5 small boys, our transplanted teenager, and the dogs. It just makes no sense to be out given the alcoholics on the road. My brother will be bartending where he used to work because he is one of those bartenders that puts on a show. His husband will probably hang out with us. LOL

I will definitely enjoy some razorblade martinis tonight. The wife prefers red wine.


CANADIANCOMMENTSCANADIANCOMMENTS - 1/1/2019 12:15:33 PM
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@MD The same dealer won't let you test drive a car either. You try you buy..in writing. They sell Aston Martin the same way too. Not afraid to put that in a video either. If I was dropping $300-$500k on a car I would want a loaner for a weekend or a week to be sure.


MDarringerMDarringer - 1/1/2019 12:48:55 PM
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That is odd. I am aware of high end dealers requiring a credit check to make sure the person can qualify for a loan to pay for the car before doing a test drive. Needless to say, I will not be buying a Lamborghini in Toronto. A friend who is a partner in a high end dealer in Seattle says they couldn't care less what the customer does with the vehicle after its sold.


PUGPROUDPUGPROUD - 1/1/2019 3:16:53 PM
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Not your Greenwich Ct dealers for sure. High end dealers try their hardest to get you on a test drive based on data that supports the greater the number of test drives the higher the sales. Have personally test drove a DB11, Vantage, 720S, Bentayga, and GT4 Lusso in last six months. Just walk in dressed well, on a mid-morning weekday, pretend like you own the place, and ask lots of questions. If you invest your time and theirs a request to test drive one sometime is usually met with "Why not now" and off you go.


CANADIANCOMMENTSCANADIANCOMMENTS - 1/1/2019 7:50:31 PM
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I guess things are a bit different up north. I remember I had to sign a document stating I was responsible for $5,000 in damages on any car I test drove at a BMW dealer back in 2000. At an Acura dealer the sales guy was pushing a test drive in the first 5 minutes of our chat. So I believe it when you say they want to get you in the car.


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