The Bose systems are by far the worst upgraded systems. My Boxster S has the $1800 system and it is simply a piece of crap. The Logic7 system in my 745 is fantastic and I think the only factory upgraded system that is better (musically) is the Mark Levinson in the LS430.
A
I have had Bose systems in two Audi A6's, a Cadillac DeVille and a Yukon XL. I had a Monsoon system in my Passat that sounded better than most factory systems, but of the Bose systems I've owned and listened to the one in my Yukon XL sounded the best. This is not to say I was completely happy with the system as I was not. Adjustments are minimal and you are at the mercy of the design guru's of that vehicle. You cannot replace the speakers unless you go to the dealer and get roasted on pricing, and contrary to popular belief Bose car speakers do give out. They are not like the old 901 home systems. Bose has done a remarkable job in marketing their product to the manufacturers, but they are not high line or even high sound. I currently have a Dodge Hemi pick up that was delivered with their Infinity system. I changed out the stock head unit and installed an Eclipse head unit. I left the speakers in place and this is now one of the better systems I've experienced to.
Just about everything you can buy aftermarket will deliver better sounding music than what was delivered in your vehicle. If I am paying $600 and up for a vehicle's high line audio system, I don't want them scrimping pennies at the expense of good sound music. XM says their XM system cost $325.00 although many manufacturers charge $400 for their systems. What's up with that?
RHoke
Ask anyone who has purchased a Nissan 350z with the Bose system. It is pathetic. How they keep their brand equity is beyond me.
Stuart
I have an 02 A4 3.0 Avant Quattro Sport with the bose symphony system and absolutely LOVE it. I have heard many high end OEM setups but, this one just rocks my world - excuse the pun - I listen to all types of music from Classical to bass-boomin' rap music and it performs very, very well.
Brad
My 350Z is equipped with the "upgraded" Bose stereo. If you read 350Z message boards you will see that it is nicknamed the "Blows" stereo. They had a problem with the "Audio Pilot" system that overcompensated road notice with excessive bass. Fortunately I received a letter a few months ago from Nissan Canada advising me that Bose and Nissan had found a fix and that if I wished, I could have it performed to my car at no cost. Well, the fix was a new amplifier and let me tell you, the system is now quite good for a factory installed unit. Although I do not know how the flaw slipped through to production, kudos to Nissan and Bose for not only resolving the problem for future cars but for taking the responsibility to upgrade existing owners units.
Jason
Harmon Kardon is a much better factory install -I moonlight by writing music professionally.
Erin
I have had three different Bose systems in my last three automobiles.
I would rate them a five on a ten scale. They just do not sound as good as most of the other systems. Their home speakers are excellent, but I do not think that buyers receive their money's worth with the Auto-bose systems. They definitely have room for major improvement.
JHB MD
I couldn't agree more with your comments regarding the Bose system. Unfortunately, I think the system provides what most Americans want: quantity regardless of quality. The Bose systems are loud. The DSP system in my E38 is very precise, but it doesn't handle deep bass very well. I am of the opinion that all cars should come with at least an in-dash CD and radio of decent quality. However, if you do opt for an audio upgrade you should really get your money's worth. $1,800 for an audio upgrade is significant. Since there are no installation costs "per se" at the factory, and the manufacturer gets the equipment at a volume discount (no pun intended), an $1,800 stereo upgrade should be the equivalent to about a $4,000.00 at your local installers. I think it is safe to say that few factory stereos can compare to a privately installed $4,000.00 system. Lexus' Nackamichi system was very impressive, and I believe I read on your site that Mercedes may be using B & O in the new S class (about the only thing I would be envious of on a Mercedes). I think it would be interesting to pre-wire vehicles, so that the owner could choose the actual equipment (amp, head unit, speakers etc...) and simply have the dealer plug it all in. Perhaps that's a little too fast and furious...Anyway, keep up the good work.
Sincerely,
David P.
While Bose, in the eyes of the average consumer is regarded as a high quality brand, one that produces well balanced and excellent sounding speakers, the truth is quite the opposite. The truth is that Bose spends most of there operating budget, not on research of new speaker technologies, but in marketing, trying to convince people that what they are producing, is, in fact, of the highest caliber available, and then overcharging people for it. If you were to look at some of the Mercedes forums, you would see that people often complain about the lack of high quality materials used in their speaker (paper cones, etc), which can account for their inaccurate representation of sound.
Lexus, on the other hand, has signed a deal with Mark Levinson, while the brand is not as well known by the average consumer, they are known, by theatre enthusiast to have been making some of the highest quality equipment for the home theatre for quite some time now. And the system’s found in most Lexus models have been regarded as the best OEM systems around.
Just a thought, J
Just a quick note, the Bose in my 2002 A4 does have a mid range adjustment.
As for the sound, it is better than my wife's 2003 A4 w/out Bose, but not $600 better (the cost of the option).
Keith
I personally agree with your statement. I am fortunate to have driven cars with Bose systems and find them disappointing. In fact I can directly compare their systems in my wife's cars with my Lexus stereos. Having listened to the Lexus Nakamichi and now the unbelievable Mark Levinson systems............well there is no comparison. The clarity and clean sound of the Mark Levinson will let you hear instruments and sounds that you have never heard on any of your old CD's.
Grant H.
I had an 99 Audi A6 with premium Bose Symphony option ($1200 + a disk changer). It sounded really well compared to other optional factory sound upgrade found in another car brands; especially compared to BMW (I have it in my 96 328i). I also have a Bose Lifestyle sound system at home. I think the car's interior quietness plays a major role in your sound perception, so I bet Lexus system will sound terrific even with an average system. What Bose system offers is solid bass reproduction, in a car or at home. However, the high-range seems just OK.
Leonard
Couldn't agree with you more. The bose systems are terrible especially in the bass where they are boomy and actually uncomfortable to listen to. I have the bass on my Porsche turned all the way down with the loudness off and it's still unbearable. Also had it in a MB and the entire sound range was terrible. If I had it to do over again I'd delete the radio completely and do after market.
D
The bose system in my Z06 is JUNK. it rattles, it has no high end- the list goes on and on. the worst thing is you cant even hardly replace it because the way the amps and the headend are setup on this car. I hope they changed it on the c6
Brent R.
Actually, I am thrilled with my sound system! New this year, my 2004 Mercedes S 430 is factory-equipped with a BOSE-based system that is Dolby Surround Sound 5.1 that totals 12 speakers including "two surround-sound speakers on the rear shelf, a dash-mounted center fill speaker and a 10" woofer". Combine that with what is a pretty quiet interior to begin with and it results in a very good sound; city and highway. Frankly, I have never heard a better system and I'm not sure I ever will!?
Bill Henry
Appleton, WI
People are finally starting to realize what audiophiles have known for a long time. Bose is a top-notch marketing machine that makes mediocre sound systems.
D
Definitely wool over everyones eyes...they must make more gross profit on the radio as a % of the car then the car itself! I don't believe the average ear appreciates the difference, otherwise they wouldn't get away with it. No depth, no clarity, no punch, just loud!
Charlie L.
I totally agree with you on your judgment regarding the POS (piece of sh*t), I mean BOSE stereo system. I have an '03 Acura MDX and also an '03 MB S430. Both cars come with the BOSE stereo system. Totally worthless. Muddy sound, lousy bass, no highs, etc. Definitely inferior to the STOCK stereo that was in my '00 Lexus LS400 (which doesn't have the high-end Nakamichi system). Please forward my feedback to Acura, MB and BOSE if at all possible. I'm password the words around to all people that I know to never buy a car with the POS system :-(
Best regards, Tony N.
Why not test drive an Aston Martin Vanquish, which is fitted with premier quality hifi manufactured by the Scottish company Linn. It sounds clear, sharp, bright and generally fantastic, only trouble is - AM's V12 engine sounds even better so you rarely switch on the in-car entertainment. I am told the power amp alone costs more to replace than the whole system in a Mercedes Benz!
D
We just purchased a new Cadillac SRX with the BOSE stereo and believe it or not it has a mid-range setting. We did get the navigation system so I am not sure it is the same without it. I have been very happy with the sound but still think it could be better. I also have a new 6-series coupe on order and currently own a 2001 BMW M3. The standard system which is an Alpine still sound s better than the BOSE system in the Cadillac and I cannot wait until I get my 6-series with the Logic 7 sound.
Michael S.
I have configured bose speakers with different amplifying sytems in my home.
The best sound i have achieved was through marantz components. As far as my car, i have always opted for bose on benzes as i dont care to upgrade the audio on my own as i dont keep the cars around long enough. The mid range sound is quite unacceptable on my c-class. However, it is better on the ML.
Also. I just expect a better stereo from a premium car company. I know benz also offers harman-kardon now. I used to have harman-kardon on a land rover discovery. It was worse than bose, however, the stereo was the only thing that did not break down in that car.
Nick A.
I found your comments on Bose audio systems interesting, and have a couple observations.
First, I think your characterization of Bose as having "pulled the wool over every car buyer's eyes" is apt, and in fact is way too narrow. As an audio enthusiast, I'd extend this to include their home audio as well -- not just automobile systems. The vast majority of audiophiles rate Bose near the bottom of the list in terms of overall sound quality, especially when price is factored in. There are a number of speaker systems offering far better quality (both sound and construction) in similar small-sized enclosures for much less cost.
What Bose does well can be summarized in one word: Marketing. Few other speaker manufacturers spend anywhere close to what Bose does to promote their products, including the flashy standalone Bose stores in major shopping malls. As a result, there's no question that Bose is one of the best-known and most popular speaker brands. Unfortunately, as with many things, "popularity" does not necessarily equate to "quality".
Looking a bit deeper: Have you ever noticed that Bose use small paper-coned speakers instead of real tweeters? (Bose calls them "twiddlers", as I recall.) And rather than a true subwoofer, Bose offers a "bass module" -- more truth in advertising, I guess, because the response of those "bass modules" doesn’t extend anywhere near low enough to be considered a subwoofer.
As to sound quality, consider: Bose never publishes any specifications for either its electronics or speakers. If they really think their products are so great, why not do so like every other manufacturer? Also, many of its products are sold in Bose-only retail stores where no competition exists. Even in stores that do offer multiple brands, have you ever noticed that Bose is usually setup in a separate area to make side-by-side A/B comparisons impossible?
Now on to automotive systems. I currently have Bose audio in two cars -- a 1995 Mercedes SL500, and a new Cadillac SRX. To put it bluntly, the setup in the SL500 is one of the worst I've ever heard, especially in a car that sold for $90k. The bass is weak (what would you expect from a roughly 6" speaker in a 'bass module'?), there's little sense of imaging, and the high-end is blurry. And when the top is down, there's simply not enough power to deliver distortion-free sound at higher volumes.
The setup in the SRX is much better, but still can't compare to the Nakamichi system I enjoyed in my Lexus SC400 and LS400 -- or to the Mark Levinson systems in the new Lexus models. At least the SRX head unit offers better control over the sound: Contrary to your article, the SRX *does* have bass, midrange, and treble controls -- as well as several DSP (digital sound processing) environments such as Talk, Front Seat, Rear Seat, and Spacious. I find that the "spacious" setting improves the sound the system puts out.
In short, I think the Bose motto should be changed from "better sound through research" to "better profits through marketing"!
Regards, Rob V.
I am in total agreement with you folks on the Bose story. They use to have a fantastic system that was worth the money, like the one in my 94 Maxima SE. In the last few years Bose is ripping the consumer and auto executives with its brand name. Reminds me of American car manufacturers. Bose is using a classic marketing plan, focus on branding because that is where the real dollars are, consumers pay a premium for the name and not any real differentiation from any cheap competitor. Compare any Bose system to a no name factory installed basic equipment, not much difference to warrant the extra cost. Compare any Bose system to a Mark Levinson system and you will see what I mean. Hopefully Mark Levinson never goes down this road, and hopefully Toyota won't let them. To the other Auto Manufactoreres Executives get your head out of your asses and see what Bose is pulling over on you guys, because, you use to do it to the American consumer and guess what you lost.
P
I totally agree. The Bose stereo in my 350 Z is so bad I don't even listen to it!
Mark Johnson
Not only has Bose pulled the wool over every ones eyes, but so has Harmon Kardon. My 2003 M3's H/K stereo is an embarrassment. $675, for what. Crap.
My local stereo store can do better for less money.
Gord
Are you guys crazy? Is there something wrong with your hearing? Are you such horrible judges of sound that you can’t even tell how superior the sound of a high priced, well marketed audio system actually is? The answer is no. To sum it up in five words, Bose is a rip-off. They have been playing a marketing game for years, making people believe that their speakers are much better than they actually are. For example, those cute little Lifestyle cubes- they’re too big to play treble (the higher frequency sounds), but they are too small to produce the lower midrange frequencies. This leaves you with a big “hole” in your sound from what the subwoofer produces to what the smaller speakers can manage. There is a very good link explaining some of the deficiencies of Bose products here http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html, and if you go on virtually any home theater or home audio enthusiasts forum, you will find countless posts as to the deficiencies of Bose products. To sum it up- yes, the Bose systems are probably the most overrated systems ever, and yes Bose marketing has been pulling the wool over everyone’s eyes for years.
Mike Kazlauskas
Can't agree with you more. Owned a 2000 A6 4.2, untill I traded up to a 2002 BMW 745I. The Bose in the Audi might as well have been a AM Radio when compared to Bimmer's Pro Logic system.
A
I agree with Autospies 100%. BOSE systems in automobiles are WAY over-rated. No doubt, BOSE makes some fine home systems. But, like mixed drinks at Applebees, BOSE must make all of its profit on automobile systems. They truly sound like crap. I rented a Mustang in Hawaii that had a better sound system than the BOSE in my father's Infiniti. My previous car was a GS300 with a Nakamichi sound system. My wife and I would power the front seats full forward, sit in the back, pour some champagne and crank up the "michi". It was like being at the Met. The BOSE is best for talk radio.
David C., Portland, OR
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks BOSE is OVERRATED. I have a 2004 Nissan Maxima with the BOSE system and I consider it inferior to the upgraded Delco system in my previous car, a 1998 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP. Besides the lack of midrange adjustment you noted, the bass response is at best acceptable. The only area where it performs better than my previous system is the highs sound clearer on the BOSE. In addition, the CD changer on my BOSE system skips while playing in cold weather (30s F and below) and doesn't function normally until the car warms up. This doesn't appear to be an isolated case. After checking with the maxima.org forums it seems many others especially in colder regions have noted this same thing. I don't consider BOSE to be a premium brand, it's just hype.
L
I have a 2003 SL 55 with Bose sound. Incredibly you can't fade the sound from front to back, but for the Tele-Aid system you CAN fade the voice from front to back. I have a 1998 Corvette convertible with Bose sound and even with the soft top, it sounds better than the Mercedes.
PJ
I have a 2003 Nissan Pathfinder with a Bose Stereo System with in Dash 6 CD Changer which is totally crap. The Infinity system I had in my Grand Cherokee was much, much better. I think Bose Systems are overrated.
RG.
I work at an audi dealership. The new 14 speaker bose surround system is absolutely amazing. The other systems that come in the tt a4 a6 and allroad. I liked the nakamichi sound system that lexus used to use. I hope the german car manufacturers can get a little more aggressive in the american market with nav and stereos.
Thanks for listening,
J.
I would have to say that I've never heard a Bose stereo that can hold a candle to Lexus' systems. Not even considering Nakamichi or Mark Levinson, their base systems are excellent.
Not to knock Bose though, I had a '93 Acura Legend with a Bose and it was the best sounding stereo I had ever owned, putting my home system to shame. My biggest complaint about that Bose system was the cheap paper cones they used, and their susceptibility to moisture damage. I went through two pair of drivers in the front doors for that reason.
I think there are definitely different levels (read $$) of Bose systems, I've heard good ones and others that just don't sound like they got much more than those 4 letters on the head unit. On the other hand, I feel like Bose gets a somewhat undeserved bad rap from audiophiles who don't appreciate Bose's equalization style. So, to them, Bose is just crap, all around.
BG, ID
I congratulate you on exposing this travesty. Personally I think Bose produces very average audio equipment. Bose happens to be a household name and their reputation has essentially been bought. Not because they manufacture the best audio equipment (just ask any audio professional about Bose, they will tell you the same thing) but because it is fact that Bose spends more money advertising / marketing its car and home audio equipment than any other manufacturer.
I congratulate Bose for creating the misconception that they are the premier car audio manufacturers in the world! They have fooled most people, but not everyone.
I think my Mark Levinson audio system in my Lexus LX470 is far superior to any Bose system available- but who's ever heard of Mark Levinson?
MG, Minneapolis
I have a bose in my 1999 ML430 and that sound is muddled at best, in addition the cd player lacks a random play button so you have to listen to the same CD’s in the same order. BUT MY MAJOR GRIPE IS WHY ARE THERE TAPE DECKS IN THESE NEW SYSTEMS??? The 2004 Range Rover even has a tape deck tucked behind the Multi-function display and no satellite and no MP3 or memory stick. It is ridicules, car buyers should be given an option from at least three major players (no pun intended).
DM
As an owner of a new Mercedes CL500, I couldn't agree more with you on your opinion of the Bose system. One dimensional, flat, distorted bass, etc....I think my Mac at the office has better sound quality to be honest with you. I am actually in the process of shopping a better system, which most likely won't be hard to find.
Christian, Dallas, TX
I couldn't agree with you more about Bose Stereo Systems. I've had a 2002 Mercedes CL 500 for over a year and a half now, and can't begin to tell you how overated the stereo is. I also had an '01 S 55 with the same stereo, both are absolute garbage. They have all of these complicated different sound settings like "driver optimized" or "small, medium, large" surround sound , and yet I have heard better sounds coming from a stadium bathroom at a football game. Not to mention the fact that I have had problems on both cars with the fiber optics. They desperately need the Mark Levinson stereo system that Lexus offers. That system rocks.
Brett, Philadelphia, PA
They are terribly over-rated. Every time I even walk into the Bose store and listen to home-theatre sets they sound off. I kept telling one of the representatives that the mid was lacking and that something was missing in sound field. There was as you have put a “muddy” sound. His response was to just turn up the bass and then shouting over the noise “but they sound great!”.
Where the store is located right across is a Bang and Olufsen place. I told him to take a walk with me to hear what full-quality speakers really sounded like.
The Rover at least has a nice Harmon-Kardon in it.
W
Well BOSE pulled the wool over someones eyes! I had a 300ZX in the 90's with that famous BOSE system and it plain sucked! I had it ripped out and replaced with an aftermarket system that was far superior. Additionally, I'm not sure this is just a BOSE issue. I now have a 530i and the stereo was lack luster. It too had to be replaced. Other luxary cars I've been in have this same trait. I for the life of me can't understand why a $40+K car has such a poor stereo.
Damon
I Agree It is the most embarrassing to even call Bose a Car stereo System. The fact that Lexus has a classy system like mark Levinson. Jaguar is smart enough to use the Famous Alpine car system. Where does Mercedes come from to use a Bose. I mean I can understand Cadillac with Bose. Ridiculous............I spent 5,000 pulled the system from my Benz.
David M
I drive an Infiniti M45 (sorry, I know how you feel about those) and the Bose stereo is the worst. Not only does it sound muffled, the the sub in the back window make it difficult to turn up when therre are passengers in the back. They complain that all they hear is the bass. There are some songs that actually sound good to people in the front but for the most part, not up to par with most other high end stereos. I am very disappointed with the stereo and I have though about spending some money to have it re-worked. My other half drives a Honda Element and that stereo is better than mine. And, on another note, why would they put the cd changer in the glove and a cassette player in the center consol where the cd should be. Doesn't make much sense to me.
Thanks for the opportunity to vent,
Tim (just wants a descent car stereo) F.
P.S. My previous car, 2002 BMW 530i wasn't much better. 10 speakers and _ _ _ _ sound. I heard that premium sound wasn't all that good either.
You're absolutely right about Bose audio systems sounding like crap. I'm a high end audio nut and as anyone of us will tell you, Bose is pretty much a joke in the world of audio. Their home systems are okay, but way overpriced for what you get. There's a common phrase used in high end circles which is "Bose blows," and for good reason too!
On the other hand, the Nakamichi and Mark Levinson systems used in Lexus automobiles are some of the best I've ever heard.
Frank
First off I love your weekly letter. You guys are right on with the bose systems. I am the proud owner of a new audi s4, and the stereo completely sucks. Just to clarify, it does contain a mid-range adjustment, although it doesn't help much. You mention Mercedes as an example, and it seems they have caught on and dropped bose as their stereo suppliers. My E500 has a Harman/Kardon stereo that is far more superior than comparable bose systems. Just a little feedback and thanks again for the great news letters !
Rob
I have a 2003 350Z with a Bose system. The radio is made by clarion, I was told this by Nissan when I contacted their customer service department to complain about the radio. Bose makes the speakers or just the amp, I have no idea, Both Nissan and Bose refuse to do a thing to correct the problem.
Chet
I have a S430 2002 and it has BOSE installed. It’s a piece of _ _ _ _!!! Nuff said!
Best, Haibert B.
I know I do not own a “elite” car, 1997 Nissan Maxima, but I believe I have the best sounding system I could own. It is the upgrade Bose system, which was an option when I bought the car. For the music I listen to (acoustic, rock, pop, and dance) it sounds superb. The tweeters are strategically placed and the bass is just enough. I can’t stand people who pay 3k+ on systems and then they sound like crap. I am a huge audiophile and pissing away money on a bass that sounds like one huge vibration is just a waste. On the other hand my father owns a 2003 Mercedes CLK-500, and for the price of that car with all the upgrades, they system sucks. There is no particular music that sounds like a 60k+ car’s system should sound like. I would expect something much better.
Adam B.
Bose is absolutely aweful, but it has enough boom to make many average people THINK that is what a car stereo should sound like. It's overboosted midbass region makes people think there is true bassTop systems would be Mark Levison in Lexus, McIntosh in Subaru, Dynaudio in select Volvos, and Logic7 in BMW. It was OK when Bose was cheap, but now its getting as expensive as the better stereo upgrades.
Preston
Hello,
Based on my own pervious experience, the cars that I (and my family) have owned with BOSE units were far superior to any other standard car manufacturer unit. Now, if you compare the BOSE unit to an upgraded stereo (amp, sub, etc.), the BOSE no longer sounds so great...As a standard item, it is more than adequate for the average person. If you're looking for a boom box on wheels, stop by a tuner shop on the way home and have them upgrade the unit.
Kevin
I think anything made by Bose is a piece of junk.....They have pulled the wool over everyone’s eyes. At least, the ones who know nothing about stereo equipment. I won't buy a car that has Bose, or anything else associated with that company. But that’s just my opinion.
Mike
I don't know why you are so down on Bose. With the exception of the Levinson system that is an option for Lexus, I can't remember any OEM radio install that was worth a crap. Since Bose has become a popular system upgrade option, the aftermarket for car stereo has almost disappeared. Where high-end products used to be available to replace bad OEM equipment, now the market caterers to kids with cheap gear so they can play MP3s, a completely inferior recording medium. Gone are the days of $1200 reference head units (Alpine7909) and class A amplifiers(Soundstream). I keep transferring my stereo gear fist installed in my Porsche in 1989(!) because I can't get anything better to replace it today. Also, when you choose a vendor for a relationship, there is more than just absolute quality that is necessary. What good is a great stereo upgrade if it proves unreliable? I am a dyed in the wool Alpine fan but have sworn never to buy another because the stuff continually breaks and then it takes me weeks and weeks to get the thing fixed. Bose, from my experience, is generally bullet proof. Why should I spend 5K on an after market install that sounds great but continually has problems when I can check a $1200 option and get something that sounds good-very good, never gives me a problem, and is covered under warranty in the unusual circumstance that it does?
Bose isn't perfect, but it's a very big and convenient improvement over yesterdays car stereos.
Bob, Essex Fells, N.J.
I recently bought a 2004 Avalanche and it is the best sounding system I have ever heard. I travel long distances and can listen to the system for hours without tiring of it! I can't imagine any other system could sound any better....
Josh
The Bose system in our Mercedes SLK 320 is complete crap. Boomy, muddy bass and no midrange. There is unfortunately no alternative in the Mercedes lineup. The HK system in our Range Rover is a decent setup.
Prateek S.
Bose, Bose, Bose. From Nissan to Infiniti and VW to Audi. Bose as a preinstalled option "upgrade" is entirely overrated. Their automotive "solutions" are riding entirely upon the name and reputation derived from their consumer electronics division. No clarity, no definition, and as you guys have mentioned, no "mid" level controls. Stock systems from Toyota and Lexus have more attunement options. With risk of being labeled a Lexus fanboy, I'd have to say the Mark Levinson systems make any factory installed Bose system pale in comparison. When I say comparison, I do mean factory versus factory, not aftermarket installed. Anyhow, at least their Wave Radio still sounds pretty decent, but who needs that when there's an iPod available these days.
-T.D.
Boy are you so right. I have listened to the Monsoon System that was in a
2001 Buick Regal and it sounded much clearer then the Bose system in my sister's 2004 Cadillac CTS. What's up?
Bruce